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Moving to Malaysia

Discussion in 'Teaching abroad' started by TeachingBusiness, Apr 27, 2019.

  1. harpplayer

    harpplayer Occasional commenter

    "In your opinion. Lots of posters on here would give you a different point of view!"

    Indeed! You've understood that this is a "forum", where people discuss "different" viewpoints, usually always with unsubstantiated and uncheckable 'facts' and 'data', using phrases like 'everyone I know' and 'many people', just like I do. Well done. impressive.

    Everyone fully understands why people might want to work in Malaysia and other similar countries. For some, lifestyle is very important at their stage of life, and money is far less so as long as you can get by each month with a spare few hundred dollars. Some people are happy to have a much slower pace of life but to live in a nice country like Malaysia in a great location for further travel. For others, it's the other way round. They want to try and earn a lot of money while they have the drive and energy, really work their socks off and set themselves up for their entire lives before resetting their priorities. Many here in Dubai could easily see themselves working in Malaysia one day or perhaps volunteering their expertise, but not until they've banked enough so that they never have to worry about money again.

    Dubai is not perfect but *is* a wonderful place to work and live for many reasons and as long as you have the right attitude and persona, and know what you are doing in your job, then you can set yourself up for your whole life in ten or maybe fifteen years. Who doesn't aim by 35 to have two properties paid off and a million in the bank, to see them through to the end of the mortal coil? Many who are here and want that genuinely can see it is possible. Where else as a humble teacher is this even remotely possible? I spent most of this Summer tutoring single students and small groups from very wealthy families privately. It is a place that rewards the work ethic.
    Last edited: Aug 21, 2019
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  2. makhnovite

    makhnovite Established commenter

    "Indeed! You've understood that this is a "forum", where people discuss "different" viewpoints, usually always with unsubstantiated and uncheckable 'facts' and 'data', using phrases like 'everyone I know' and 'many people', just like I do. Well done. impressive."

    But you don't dear harpist, if you read your post again there are none of the usual admissions to it being an opinion it is presented very forcibly as the only point of view and finished off very nicely with 'no-brainer', Your response to my comment is far more appropriate, why not write that one straight off rather than the first very didactic one.
  3. claytie

    claytie New commenter

    Please can anyone suggest what the salary will roughly be at the school with 'outside green space'? I have many years' experience.
  4. rosiecg

    rosiecg Occasional commenter

    For a teacher with experience, I would expect around rm19,000 per month including housing allowance. (My school is in the same group).
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  5. JamesBondGibbon

    JamesBondGibbon New commenter

    Is that pre-tax secondary? Seems a little on the low side.
  6. gulfgolf

    gulfgolf Established commenter

    Seems high in other schools. It very much depends on the school and the CV.
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  7. bobbingtoncrescent

    bobbingtoncrescent New commenter

    JamesBondGibbon. Yes that is pre-tax. I think secondary pay would be the same at the lawn bowls club as primary, but perhaps I am mistaken.
  8. JamesBondGibbon

    JamesBondGibbon New commenter

    Could be mistaken but thought primary earned less. Partly because student fees are significantly lower. Also because, correct me if I'm wrong, early years/primary teachers are more interchangeable/easier to find than secondary specialists.

    Do you have first hand hearsay of the back yard school bobbington?

    From *** it says $60-70K from 2016 but that's just one person.
  9. nemo.

    nemo. Occasional commenter

    kemevez, I sense a bitter teacher in you working for a low salary in a third tier school. I happened to accept a lower than the top end salaries in Malaysia, 22 to 25k RM is first tier pay, simply as money is no problem for me and I wanted to be in Malaysia. But then as an outstanding teacher I took a job paying more than double (well 3x including perks) in a first tier school for a change of scenery.

    An option obviously not open to you, stressing the outstanding teacher part of the requirement.
  10. T0nyGT

    T0nyGT Lead commenter

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  11. kemevez

    kemevez Occasional commenter

    Made me chuckle though.
  12. amariB

    amariB New commenter

    Never worked in a school where primary earned less (and as a primary teacher, never would!) Is this commonplace? Would certainly breed resentment amongst staff! Yes primary teachers are easy to find, but so are secondary English teachers...
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  13. dumbbells66

    dumbbells66 Lead commenter

    Never seen it in 13 years of international teaching
  14. T0nyGT

    T0nyGT Lead commenter

    Anyone who can teach 5 year olds should be on at least 3x what I'm on
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  15. yasf

    yasf Established commenter

    Depends. Not good early years teachers, nor specialists such as primary music, art or PE etc.
  16. yasf

    yasf Established commenter

    That seems quite low to me. Even net and with housing paid.
  17. grdwdgrrrl

    grdwdgrrrl Occasional commenter

    What is your criteria for “developed”? I’ve live in both places and neither are as developed as China. Penang is more developed than Bangkok that’s just based on public transportation. The busses on Penang are from the 2010’s and the ones in Bangkok are more from the 1970’s.
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  18. APMay

    APMay New commenter

    Hi, I am also heading out to KL in August with the family, it would be great to pick your brain on a couple of things. Not great at messaging so could you PM me? Cheers
  19. adrixargentina

    adrixargentina Occasional commenter

    After your tax rate is reduced, do you get a rebate?
  20. taiyah

    taiyah Occasional commenter

    Because your school has been taxing you with the emergency tax rate; the simple answer is "yes". Make sure to read, do some maths and keep all of your payslips.

    Remember you need to be a Malaysian resident for tax purposes before you qualify for those tax brackets.
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