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Moving from primary to secondary teaching

Discussion in 'Career clinic' started by Taboo71, Nov 14, 2015.

  1. Taboo71

    Taboo71 New commenter

    Hi All,
    I need some advice on the best approach to change from primary teaching to secondary teaching. I handed in my notice and left my last school in the summer. This was due to a combination of a horrible line manager who made mine and others lives hell and family commitments. I have been qualified for the last 9 years.
    I'm now leaning to teaching my passion, maths, in secondary school.
    What I'm seeking is how do I pursue my career change to teaching in secondary? Will I be on the same pay level, when I left my school I was MPS 6? Do I need to enrol on a course to teach secondary? Over the years I have taught nursery up to year 6, so would my teaching in KS2 help with teaching KS3/4?
    I know I have to increase my subject knowledge in maths, but what else do you suggest I do to help me with this transition?
    Many thanks for reading this and any advice given.
     
  2. JessicaRabbit1

    JessicaRabbit1 Senior commenter

    No advice, but I'm in the same boat, wanting to leave Primary for Secondary History. Will be watching this thread.
     
  3. minnie me

    minnie me Star commenter

    I would avoid at all costs using the word ' passion ' in relation to any subject specialism ( sorry ! ) but in answer to your post I do know that my setting employed a very talented KS2 teacher who eventually became an English AST because of her success with students who were lower attaining. Her expertise and approaches were then rolled out to other members of the Faculty and she has since taken a lead on whole school teaching and learning. I know that this same setting is experiencing massive problems with Maths currently and must surely be identifying raising standards at KS3 as a priority. I think if you can show that you can enthuse students, instill confidence and demonstrate progress you would be attractive to this kind of school.
     
  4. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

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    Excellent comment above from @minnie me .

    Let's look at the questions from the OP.

    Q1 Probably by doing supply at first to gain experience.

    And to see if (a) you like it (b) you can actually do it. ;)

    Q2 No, as there is no longer any Pay Portability.

    No more Pay Portability, no more pay scale, no more automatic moving up the scale.

    Q3 There are none provided by the DfE. There may be some offered by your local college, but beware quality . . .

    Q4 Yes, and especially if you can show empathy with those struggling with maths

    Q5 I'm not sure if qualify for the SKE couirses as you already hold QTS, but do enquire.

    P.S. most people are trying to do the opposite, seeing the grass as very much greener on the Primary side of the fence!

    Best wishes

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  5. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

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    Here is a link to the SKE

    Best wishes

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  6. JessicaRabbit1

    JessicaRabbit1 Senior commenter

    Thanks Theo. I've worked in middle and then Primary. The grass is most definitely not greener!
     
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  7. Taboo71

    Taboo71 New commenter

    Many thanks Theo for replying to my thread, I will use your link.
    I was actually going to come out of teaching altogether but my love for maths has brought me back into teaching, but in a different direction. Why shouldn't it be a 'passion' @ minnieme? Maths has always been my strength and I have a maths based degree. My results for maths have always been good, regardless of the year group I have taught.

    I, like many others, have become frustrated with the profession and hope to rekindle the love of teaching I once had and to do this teach a subject that I am extremely enthusiastic about. I also hope that my enthusiasm with the subject will rub off and children will also enjoy whilst learning.
     
  8. minnie me

    minnie me Star commenter

    I think you will find that when children enjoy a subject then there is often an enhanced capacity for learning. Fundamental I would have thought. Maths may be a ' passion '( a much over used term , in my opinion ) for you but this may prevent you from empathising with students who struggle with the subject ?. I suspect that you will find more ' switched off ' / challenging students in Secondary than in Primary so yes you will need to be enthusiastic and skilled to be able to motivate those who ' can't / won't. It's not just about having a Degree.My initial response to your post was meant to encourage.
     
  9. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

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    Which is why i found it helpful for the O.P. @minnie me

    Best wishes

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  10. Taboo71

    Taboo71 New commenter

    @TheoGriff .. Good news!!

    Next week I will be joining a school, close to home, to start a 'Return to teaching' programme in a secondary school, to start my new career in teaching maths.

    Thank you all for your previous comments, they have been helpful.
    If anyone would like information on how to get on a programme then please pm me for any advice and help that I can give you.
     
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  11. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

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    Excellent news! And thank you for your offer to help others.

    Best wishes for the new start.

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  12. canderson8432

    canderson8432 New commenter

    Taboo71. Did you find out the answer to your question? "Will I be on the same pay level?". I'm considering switching too for the same reasons.
     

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