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Moving from England to Scotland

Discussion in 'Scotland - Primary' started by terrysusan90, Jan 21, 2019.

  1. terrysusan90

    terrysusan90 New commenter

    Hi I'm considering a move to Scotland to teach Primary and I'm looking for a bit of advice.

    I have already registered with the GTCS and I am currently looking at vacancies. I spoke to a HT at a primary school today to enquire about the year group of a position currently advertised and was told that there is an expectation that no teacher can remain fixed with a particular age range. I would be expected to move year group regularly and could be placed anywhere from P1 to P7. Is this a school specific policy, or a general rule in Scottish schools?

    There are some schools in England that operate such a policy, but in general there is an understanding that teachers tend to specialise in lower or upper primary, and prefer to stay within that range, or at least that has been my experience to date.
  2. bonxie

    bonxie Senior commenter

    It's school specific. Schools in Scotland have a lot more autonomy than those in England. Some schools like teachers to change year groups now and again, others are quite happy for teachers to stay in the same year group if that's where they want to be.
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  3. terrysusan90

    terrysusan90 New commenter

    Thanks for your reply, that's reassuring to hear.
  4. Flyonthewall75

    Flyonthewall75 New commenter

    Just a word of caution.
    Whilst it is not unusual, in Scotland, for teachers to have a preference for teaching, for example, P1-3 or P4-7, this will not be stated in your employment contract.
    In Scotland, the employer is the local authority, not the school and you will be contracted to teach in any position from nursery to P7, although there are now fewer teachers employed in nursery classes for financial reasons.
    You will also be liable to be transferred to any primary school within the local authority depending on the requirements of the education authority, subject to local union agreements with the employer.
    I hope this helps.
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  5. ChloTiz

    ChloTiz New commenter

    Hello - sorry to jump in on your conversation! I'm a teacher (5th year) in England and have applied for SO MANY teaching jobs in Scotland with not one interview. I've got full GTCS and PVG. I'm wondering if they favour those who have experience with the Scottish curriculum? Has anyone else had this issue? I have been advised that the only job I could think about getting in Scotland is supply and this isn't something I'd really consider. Any advice?
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  6. Flyonthewall75

    Flyonthewall75 New commenter

    If a primary school has many applications for a post, it is possible that they will give priority to those with practical experience of a Curriculum for Excellence which is not actually a curriculum, but rather a constructivist theory of learning, which some (many?) believe is not particularly excellent. You will, however, need to at least pretend to understand, and value, it to get a job in the present climate.
    A lot may depend on where you're applying for jobs - the central belt being where most teachers live and work and that's where the competition for jobs tends to be the greatest.
    LA's with more rural, and remote, schools tend to be constantly trying to fill vacancies.
    You mention that you do not want to consider supply - including, I presume, long-term supply - but that would be one way to demonstrate that you had some practical experience of a CfE.
    Also, if you are restricted in the distance you can travel, you could always try sending a short letter of introduction to the primary headteachers in your area. You would still need to go through the approved, LA process for recruitment if a job came up but you would be surprised how little things - such as a letter of introduction, mentioning your full GTCS registration and PVG - can jog a headteacher's memory when they are sifting through a pile of job applications, or, indeed, struggling to fill an unexpected vacancy at short notice.
    Good luck.

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