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Most useless or bizarre piece of Ofsted feedback...

Discussion in 'Ofsted inspections' started by WD, May 13, 2005.

  1. ian444

    ian444 New commenter

    On my second OFSTED, I had a mad old trout who stank of fags and whisky standing behind me and between me and the board as I was teaching the class. Everytime I turned round I bumped into her and there was this stink coming from her that was really putting me and the kids off. She had the cheek to give my lesson an unsatisfactory even though she could hardly remember what it was about. I told my Head who was too spineless and lazy to do anything about it. Later in the inspection I was lectured by the 20 stone, obese, sweating, red faced HMI on how important PE was for kids and how I should ensure they participated. I am a PE graduate was PE coordinator. From then on I always took OFSTED/Inspector advice with a pinch of salt and only really listened to people who I knew could do it themselves. It seemed to work because I made it to headship.
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  2. Well, it could be taken that way, but I'm sure that's not how it was meant.
  3. not from an inspector but my university tutor on my last observation
    "its marvellous that you know all the children's names" - well I should bloody well hope so I've taught them 3 times a week for the last 4 months!
    A singularly useless piece of feedback from a teacher who's lesson I was observing
    "You were 2 minutes late for this lesson - very unprofessional" - despite the fact he knew full well I was teaching at the other end of the school the previous lesson, we had no movement time scheduled and I didnt know where his room was. Apparently I am supposed to move at the speed of light and not stop to ask the sixth form for directions on the way!

  4. Doitforfree

    Doitforfree Star commenter

    This thread has really made me laugh.

    Could someone put all these into a document and send it to Christine Gilbert and the Department for Families Schools? Or maybe an article in the Times.
  5. Gardening Leaves

    Gardening Leaves New commenter

    An Ofsted Inspector came to observe someone in my department. The Someone had just not bothered to come in that morning. I was carefully explaining to Supply Teacher what the lesson was and checking she had all the resources, class lists etc. Went to back of room to explain situation to Mr Inspector. Supply teacher shouted at boy in front row, pushed table at him, he threw it back and she walked out saying: "I'm not staying in this bloody mad house!" I calmed things down and started to teach the lesson myself. The Ofsted Inspector was busy scratching out another name and adding a third to his list. Said: "I don't know who I am supposed to be watching any more." I said: "I'd give up and not bother watching anyone! I really need you to give me a hand instead." And, bless him, he put his clipboard down and he mucked in.
    At end of lesson he went to give feedback to my No 2 on an earlier lesson. Supply teacher barged in to collect her coat and things. Shouted at Inspector: "Don't think you are going to say anything to me!" and left.
    At the end of the week we got a Good, with some Excellent features. Go figure!
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  6. Almost any that has come from someone who is not a subject specialist (looking at your subject) and was last in school over 20yrs ago!
  7. Inspectors often inspect lessons where they are not a subject specialist. The characteristics of a good lesson will still be there to see and they will record the content of the lesson and the teacher's notes given to the inspector about what is to be learned and expected outcomes.
    The usual etiquette is to present this evidence to a specialist inspector who would suggest a grade for attainment to match the evidence.
    In new style inspectors where there is a small team this is not always possible.

    All inspectors will have been teachers. Some may now be rusty at teaching but they are qualified to inspect, and they are subject to checks. To become an Ofsted inspector your career pathway will usually have included teaching, head of department, SMT, and LA Adviser. In any career progression one leaves behind a previous role and would need to brush up on it if called to do so.
    In my own case I am an ex-inspector who trains teachers and occasionally teaches pupils - when I get a chance. It still gives the same buzz, but of course younger teachers will of course be so much better at this job.

  8. You don't have to be young to be an excellent classroom teacher. One of the best I knowi s teaching year six in her final year before retirement. She has energy, and has the children's motivation behind her. She is committed and gets amazing results.
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  9. Actually, no. There are some inspectors still working who were lay inspectors under previous frameworks.

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  10. "The children would have enjoyed it more if you'd brought in live frogs"

    And they'd enjoy space topics more if i flew them to the moon.
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  11. 1st: Ofsted guy falling asleep in my lesson after laughing to himself ... it was a thursday afternoon and he stunk of beer... when feedbacking he commented on the wrong lesson... eventually after getting frustrated.. he calmly got up and walked out of the room!
    why do we have to put up with such nonsense!

    2bd: Inspector very pleased with the lesson.. excellent lesson he said .. very good... then he fedback more and comments changed to good and satisfactory..later he declared it was satisfactory with good features! in five minutes he changed his mind somewhat!

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  12. As we were plunging the deepest depths of special measures.....he walked padt my manager and said, 'Don't take it personally".
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  13. MarkS

    MarkS New commenter

    A local secondary school was told it woould never be better than satisfactory while its fence was so low. Apparently, little gits climbing over and running away is a safeguarding issue!
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  14. brush75

    brush75 New commenter

    This was from last year. As my students were filing out, the inspector complimented me on the lesson "given that you were meant to have a TA to assist your statements". At which point my TA tapped her on the shoulder and pointed out that she'd been sitting with the three statemented students all lesson helping them with the tasks. The inspector had been sitting there for 25 minutes, only 15 feet from the TA and hadn't noticed her at all, despite the fact I'd talked to the TA and the students she was helping three or four times while I'd been circulating the room. Perhaps she'd fallen asleep.
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  15. Doitforfree

    Doitforfree Star commenter

    I'm a childminder and was expecting the inspector. She didn't arrive and finally phoned to say she couldn't find my house. I had told her when she booked the inspection that my house is painted green (the only one in the road) so she couldn't miss it. I went outside and found her walking up and down the road. She told me she had tried the house next door, although she knew it wasn't painted green, because 'it has a lot of green plants in the garden'!
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  16. Why are you only a supply teacher? That shows a lack of ambition? Don't you want a ferrari?

    Said by an inspector to a friend of mine at a school in special measures.

    I don't know anyone in teaching who has a ferrari.
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  17. gruoch

    gruoch Occasional commenter

    I do - no kids, though.
  18. Last year the Ofsted inspector said to me that 'the TAs weren't being used very effectively during the carpet session'. Well from her vantage point at the back of the class, watching the children's backs, she obviously couldn't see that one TA was signing with two non-verbal children and helping them to join in and sign their responses. The other TA was sitting between two lads with behavioural issues and keeping them in check. I explained all this to her and she replied with... 'but I saw no behaviour issues'! No sh*t, Sherlock - it was being managed effectively, that's why!
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  19. zinzan

    zinzan New commenter

    Great, funny sad and disturbing some of these. Would you like to hear some of the best manager/ teacher excuses for *** provision totally failing to meet the needs of kids? Better than a lot of these I can guarantee you. I guess you probably wouldn't
  20. anon2799

    anon2799 New commenter

    No one on here is arguing that children shouldn't be getting the best. That's what all decent teachers and heads want.
    They also want a fair and equitable system which doesn't change more often than some of our kids socks. One which doesn't depend on the foibles and expertise (or lack of) of the inspectors. One which recognises that some children, from difficult backgrounds, might be more challenging to teach and may struggle to achieve a level 5/ 5 c grade GCSEs no matter how outstanding the teaching. I have met some very realistic and reasonable ofsted inspectors and I've met some I wouldn't give houseroom to if I didn't have to. Unfortunately the current regime seems so restrictive that no matter how good the teaching (I've always received 1s and outstandings myself so I have no axe to grind here) the school can never be any more than satisfactory because the children make progress but they are "below the national average". Progress is now not as important as attainment. Which means that some schools will always be "satisfactory" or even in a category. Hardly an incentive to attract the best teachers, which is exactly what the pupils in deprived areas need.
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