After a bit of reading and thinking and extracting: Continental Europeans seem to have no problem with the EU pressing for ever-greater union. This is a fundamental perception gap between us and them. The 'remain' camp in GB have very few people who argue publicly for ever-closer union. The debate is generally about whether we want to be part of a free trade area or not. When you argue about it like that, Brexit might seem like a bad idea. A vote to remain is a vote for the status quo. A vote to leave may seem like a weird decision (to our existing trading partners), in the hope of getting a better deal by increasing our trading across the world whilst maintaing EU trading levels. The problem is that neither 1 or 2 describes the issue. It doesn’t matter how much we are reassured about not being part of an ever closer union, we need to remember that the entire bureaucratic structure of the EU was built on the prospect of ever closer union. This is the main reason why Brexit makes sense to me. It doesn’t seem sensible to be a member of a club that wants something that you may be opposed to IE., The EU wants ever-closer union, WE do not. With the 'ever closer' union argument it is worth noting that GB may not be the only member of the EU who has little desire to be further tied together as part of a United Europe. IMO., a United States of Europe is the only way that the 'euro' makes sense and a further complication is with countries having grossly different economies and/or political cultures. IMO., it only works if the people want it to work. History demonstrates that when you impose artificial borders and artificial unity on a group of human beings, it tends to blow up in your face. Another question about the EU., is whether or not they genuinely have the good will from their electorates to forge ahead with it. If they did, then perhaps the Greek crisis might never have happened. Germany would have given Greece money unconditionally and Greece may then have tried harder to balance their books. The EU is a mess because whether you admit it or not, there is this unification project argument at the heart of it and perhaps some EU nations are glad that the UK is a member because we act as a critical brake on its excessive needs/wants. If we leave, then it might force the EU to take a proper look at itself, and encourage some transparency and an acknowledgement of realities that are currently being glossed over largely by money printing and political wishful thinking.