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More coronavirus deaths in UK than in whole of EU

Discussion in 'Personal' started by TheoGriff, Jun 4, 2020.

  1. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

    UK Population 66 million
    EU Population 450 million


    How have we come to this?

    Is it a wonder that the rest of Europe looks on incredulously as WE quarantine THEM?

    (The figures from BBC. I cannot guarantee accuracy)

    Keep safe, everyone
    Last edited: Jun 4, 2020
  2. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Star commenter

    We won't know until we know who is catching it and wherre. No idea after 12 weeks
    Kandahar, sodalime and Jamvic like this.
  3. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    It's not 359 deaths in one day... it's 359 new deaths known to authorities and reported to us.

    The pattern is now below 100 deaths a day

    From: https://twitter.com/cricketwyvern
  4. racroesus

    racroesus Star commenter

    Rather, more people die of corona virus infection each day in the UK than in the whole of the EU.
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  5. steely1

    steely1 Occasional commenter

    Not that I want to take away from such a grim statistic, but when that was aired on Newsnight last night, there was the caveat that the figures are calculated differently in some of those EU nations.

    As I said, however - still very grim.
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  6. racroesus

    racroesus Star commenter

    I wish you had been faster off the mark with that and saved me my post.
  7. burajda

    burajda Star commenter

    It doesn't make much sense. Why arent they quaranteening us? Do they really want Brits in their resorts as they open up and we close down?
    TheoGriff, chelsea2 and Dunteachin like this.
  8. sodalime

    sodalime Star commenter

    I suppose we'll need to wait and see what air corridors are reciprocally agreed and what, if any, quarantining is expected from each country involved in their air corridor agreement with the UK. Different countries, i'm sure, will have different restrictions/demands, but financial necessity is a huge motivator.
  9. ilovesooty

    ilovesooty Star commenter

    There are countries such as Malta and Greece who quite understandably certainly don't want us at present.
    TheoGriff and agathamorse like this.
  10. Grandsire

    Grandsire Star commenter

    Blimey, that is stark, even if you assuming that our counting is simply better. But the real figures for the UK are going to be higher, because of the lack of testing. What on earth have we done with the time granted to us by the lockdown?

    I can't shake the feeling that our government is still pursuing the 'herd immunity' plan...
    idlp56, Catsoup, Sally006 and 4 others like this.
  11. harsh-but-fair

    harsh-but-fair Star commenter

    That's just deaths in hospital, so not comparing apples with apples.
  12. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Star commenter

    Right now, it's herd immunity or indefinite Island lockdown as the only options for now.
    Grandsire, dumpty, ilovesooty and 2 others like this.
  13. sodalime

    sodalime Star commenter

    Indeed. Until every person in the UK can be tested, that's where we are just now. Testing only those in certain professions/job roles and those displaying symptoms is proof that herd immunity is the policy.
  14. Morninglover

    Morninglover Star commenter

    If that's all the Tories can offer, they need to give up and let someone else run the country.
  15. Ivartheboneless

    Ivartheboneless Star commenter

    The last few years, well ten actually, have made me feel embarrassed to be British. Tories, guilty of murder of their own people, in one way or another. Even if you dress it up as "oppression" or "failure to protect" or "we are all in this together" (we aren't and we never were). As the "sick man of Europe" we deserve evrything the Tories throw at us, because the majority spoke and voted them in. That 350 million quid a week spent on the people might have helped.
  16. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    The 359 deaths figure is deaths in hospitals.

    The figures I'm discussing are deaths in hospitals.

    Do you know what an apple looks like?
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  17. dumpty

    dumpty Star commenter

    I do get the feeling of borderline extreme hatred and yet frustration from Labour leaning voters which still - while being sincere and honest - does little to change the debate.

    The enigma is still that while there are indeed many (very many, not least on here as a majority) who feel as you do and argue the same points as you, it appears that apart from the Blair years the British people keep voting Tory when push comes to shove.

    Look how they kept voting Thatcher back too.

    I was overseas most of these years and recently too so I really have no idea why and am as perplexed as many of you.

    I agree though it must be horribly frustrating as this pattern seems unable to break unless like Blair you offer Tory Lite.
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  18. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Star commenter

    Seems to be down to a change in the way Spain is now reporting.
    Kandahar likes this.
  19. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Star commenter

    Herd immunity or lockdowns, what is someone else offering?
    sodalime likes this.
  20. Kandahar

    Kandahar Star commenter

    That's a little harsh but fair.
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