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Money, money, money...

Discussion in 'Personal' started by JUJUB, Nov 18, 2015.

  1. JUJUB

    JUJUB New commenter

    And so it begins in earnest - Tadcaster Grammar School asks parents to contribute up to £50 per month towards the school budget. This is the slippery slope to privatisation, fast on the heels of academisation...whatever happened to education, education, education.
    In my crystal ball I see: not enough money to acquire teachers, huge class sizes, further polarisation of society, outstanding schools becoming a cheap alternative for current public/private fee paying parents who can pay a bit more than the average, manipulation of entrance requirements to favour those who can pay over the have nots,,, I could go on.
    This should not be allowed to happen but I suspect people will only wake up and smell the coffee after the pot has been emptied.
     
  2. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

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  3. Morninglover

    Morninglover Star commenter

    Don't think that is new - schools have often asked for voluntary contributions in the past (I worked in more than one who did so). They aren't just grammars either.
     
  4. Vladimir

    Vladimir Senior commenter

    Just like with immigration and its consequences, yet you'll still have people claiming to smell nothing.
     
  5. VanEyssen

    VanEyssen Established commenter

    Is this new? I was contributing 12 years ago.
     
  6. felltogroundinberkeleysquare

    felltogroundinberkeleysquare Established commenter

    I once gave £2000 to a school to set up a library. What a fool I was.
     
  7. Burndenpark

    Burndenpark Star commenter

    Well first of all Labour won and changed the sound track, then Labour lost, and now the Tories are in.

    The thing to pick holes in now is the myth that we're all in it together (if you can find an extra £50 a month and live in Tadcaster)
     
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  8. VanEyssen

    VanEyssen Established commenter

    6th form locally required a level students to buy all books unless there was hardship. Not a bad deal considering the school provided 1 or more text books to keep for the full year to every child for the first 5 years
     
  9. Duke of York

    Duke of York Star commenter

    You mean like anyone who has taken out a mortgage brecently or has had their rent hiked up way beyond way beyond the cost of inflation just because landlords can get away with it?
    Does the school's definition of hardship include people who have been forced to live with their parents because they can't even raise the cost of a deposit on a home these days, let alone find the money to pay the mortgage? Middle class families who need to make use of food banks through inept housing policy?
     
  10. midnight_angel

    midnight_angel Senior commenter

    I was a grammar school student, and the only one from the not-to-far council estate. Regardless of how some like to swing it, grammars are mostly full of students from middle class family. Social mobility wise, I haven't done so bad myself, and thank my education for that, but I was certainly the only child from the estate.

    My mum certainty wouldn't have been able to afford £50 a month for me. I never went without when it came to school trips, and she always went to Smiths to ensure I had revision books etc, but £50 EVERY month, just to go into the budget? No. I feel sorry for the working class students at the grammar school, mentioned in the OP, would they further be singled as the "poor one" for not being able to contribute? The same goes for the so deemed middle class students, whose parents have high mortgages etc.
     
  11. VanEyssen

    VanEyssen Established commenter

    I don't think there were any 17 year olds who were looking to buy a home.
    That's not due to housing policy that's due to losing a job.
     
  12. VanEyssen

    VanEyssen Established commenter

    Whilst the label is somewhat out of date, it's a bit patronizing to assume all working-class people are poor and that the school staff would reveal those not paying.
     
  13. Jolly_Roger1

    Jolly_Roger1 Star commenter

    The grammar school to which I went had something called a 'voluntary subscription' (which was compulsory, of course!) that my parents had to pay at the beginning of each term. It was something like £2, with reductions if you had more than one child at the school. This was 1967.
     
  14. lexus300

    lexus300 Star commenter

    When Labour 'got in' I fully expected them to reverse the changes brought about by Maggie and her inferior successors. They did not and that started my disaffection with New Labour and tilted me towards Socialism.
     
  15. harsh-but-fair

    harsh-but-fair Star commenter

  16. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

    By all means give a shout-out for extra cash. Are all schools still registered as charities?

    AnyHOO.

    But if it makes the kids feel 2nd-class citizens or the kids are excluded from things on the basis of the parents' contributions? No.

    If it's a God's-honest private school though then they can do what they like.
     
  17. Duke of York

    Duke of York Star commenter

    Or finding that wages can't possibly keep pace with rent increases.
     
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  18. Noja

    Noja Senior commenter

    Tad grammar isn't actually a grammar - its the comp, just retained the old name.
     
  19. VanEyssen

    VanEyssen Established commenter

    i don't think there are many employed middle class families with 17 year old children renting and using food banks. Perhaps you can show me otherwise.
     
  20. Duke of York

    Duke of York Star commenter

    Do you never read news articles where mention of food banks crops up, Madge?
     

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