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Miss, what's your first name?

Discussion in 'Behaviour' started by minnieminx, Mar 19, 2011.

  1. minnieminx

    minnieminx New commenter

    I just made up a name in my first year of teaching and it has stuck. As far as many children are concerned I am called Penelope, though some do know my 'real' name.

    I'd definitely not tell a group who asked so they could find me on FB. I'd tell them that my FB page is for me and my friends just as theirs is. I ask if they would really want a teacher being able to see everything they write.
     
  2. When the kids as me my name I just tell them.
    They can easily find it out by looking at my user account name on the computer anyway, it's easier to answer than not to answer.
    As for Facebook, I do not appear in the search results - so it is almost impossible to find me!
     
  3. Henriettawasp

    Henriettawasp New commenter

    It's 'Mrs'. But they still call me Miss....
     
  4. Tom_Bennett

    Tom_Bennett Occasional commenter

    They're trying to push you around because they sense your newness, like a freshly painted wall. Tell them to stop asking you; and that if they keep asking you, you'll assume they're trying to be rude. Then follow up as per any other misbehaviour.
    Of course you can do this without sounding like a hard-ass by simply ignoring them a few times if you think they're simply being sweet/ irritating, but it is often a bully-the-teacher tactic, popular because it seems so innocuous. They're trying to cross the boundary of your authority. Show them that crossing your boundaries means the alarms will go off...
    Good luck
    http://behaviourguru.blogspot.com/
     
  5. 'But they still call me Miss....'
    ... which in my case often came out as 'Mess'. I preferred to believe it was a regional variant, rather than a fashion statement.
     
  6. Are these Primary pupils? If so, I would tell them that you have to be 13 to access facebook, and ask why they're on it at all!
     
  7. adamcreen

    adamcreen Occasional commenter

    I'm "Algernon", though with a surname like Creen there's not many of us about
     
  8. dts true, I think there is no matter if students know their teacher's name its not big deal.
     
  9. They're going to find out any way! If you really don't want them to find you and have that security, go to:
    account -> privacy settings -> connecting on facebook -> search for you on facebook -> friends only.
     
  10. If they ask you for your first name, tell them!
    You should rely on being a good teaching to garner respect, not the contrivances of your knowing their first name but their not knowing yours.
    I don't see why it matters if they find you on Facebook. If you don't want them to be on your list, ignore their request.
    "Miss miss - I've seen that you have a Facebook profile". And?
    "Miss miss - apparently you have a mobile phone".





     
  11. loranp

    loranp New commenter

    My year 7 class asked me that this morning, I was amazed that it's taken them since September to think about it, my other classes asked me in the first week.

    They know that my first initial is L because it says 'Miss L. X' on their timetables, so I just pre-empted the inevitable guessing of 'Lucy? Laura? Louise?' etc and said 'Lauren'. They were quite taken aback that I just told them, and one went 'that suits you, Miss' and they got on with their work. My name's actually spelt Loran, so the one good thing about that is that it makes me very hard to find on Facebook because they search for Lauren.
     
  12. oldsizenines

    oldsizenines New commenter

    As my first name and last name begin with the same letter, my colleagues (wait for it...) find it difficult to say Miss 'Last-name' and call me Miss 'First-name' by accident in front of
    a) my class
    b) the headteacher
    c) the entire school during assembly.
    I usually crumble with embarassment, but my class told me that they knew it anyway because it went home to them last year on a letter when I was appointed... :|
     
  13. My year 8's arrived today in a high state of excitement because they had 'discovered' my name on the email system... One walked in with a "hi Michelle". I told him to turn around, walk out the door and try coming back in in a different way. He got the hint - and the others thought he was foolish for trying to be rude/jokey.

    Your name doesn't give you power over them. The boundaries you create and the respect you demand does.
     
  14. What a perfct opportunity to dicsuss the various issues of sovial meadia and cyversafety and professional conduct for teachers with these students. I have no problem with them knowing my first name - in fact I believe that helps build the all important relationship with them as long as they use it respectfully and as required by the college culture.
    Yes - under 13's should be told that they should not be looking for you on FB - and a newsletter from the school to parents reminding them that this is something they need to work with their kids on what is ok and what is not on the internet for them - explore with those under 13's what they are doing on fb abd how they need to be cyversafe - and how connecting with teachers will not make them cybersafe even if it feels that way.
    Explain on a personal level to them what you do to protect your own provacy and why you use facebook - and what rules and limits there are for you.I dont connect with students is for me one of them.
    If there is a school policy or professional code of conduct you have an out - ours is do nto connect with students on facebook - so they can know my first name. I dont have a problem with that - they just know they need not bother freinding me because if I said yes I would be breaking the rules of my job.
    I also explain how I use fb mostly for family and personal friends so they would be entering my mon teaching world - as I would be entering there provate lives so in that sense such a conection would be inappropriate.
    I have one hitch in all of this and the students at my school cope with it well - we have a small community. Stuudents socialise with teachers on all possible levles - they play in the same sprt teams, are coached by teachers in the sport, are the sales girl at the supermarket checkout, or at the same comunity events we attend. As a teacher attending a celebration of a friend I am likely to come across students from my school socially all the time - facebook is just another one of those - when i do I am mindful of my professional relationship with the child and the child is mindful of the educational relationship they have with me. I only have to say once to a child at school I am Ms Gilbert. It works because we are open and we do talk about it.
    On a personal level I do have yr 12 students whose facebook presence I am familiar with and who can acces some of mt friends of freinds settings - because they are mates with my daugher doing yr 12 kn the same school- so in that sense we are connected - they dont abuse it - they respect this private life and know I know what they put on my daughters wall too. I would only ever breech the confidence they have in me in that if I became alert to them struggling with their school lives and would gently followup in the school environment. I have a responsibility - duty of care - that if i do discover something concerning to pass it on to the right people who can decide if and how to deal with it - I do not interfere.
    So... aside from those few students in the school who have misused fb as a place for spying or bullying I think we manage it quite well. We have rules and guidelines to follow, a respectful culture that recognises the grey area between the personal life of students and teachers in a small community, and a clear no FB at school policy - there is a lot of social media teachers can use for education - I believ fb is not the one for us to take into the classroom. Keeoing it for perosnal and professional use is respwcted by the students.
    Nothing wrong with any of the social media really - but it is like a car - in the hands of a por driver there will be a problem. I like that they know my first name, they could even look me up in the phone book - but they also get why we cannot connect in this way if you take the time to talk to them about it rather than shut them out.
     
  15. Tell them if they're good, you'll tell them at the end of the lesson/day. By that time they just want to go and will have forgotten they asked, and it might get them to be quiet for a bit. If they persist, just lie. Tell them it's Genevieve - they won't even be able to spell it!

     
  16. dpt

    dpt

    Yes, It's a god plan - I used to tell mine my name was Deirdree Penelope - they used to say "urgh - did your Mum hate you?!" A friend of mine said his name was Marmaduke Jeffery and this stuck even when they found out his real name - just make sure the intials match. The "Miss" answer usually works too as you get a groan and then they forget about it!
     
  17. lolaarcana

    lolaarcana New commenter

    I just told them when I was teaching about Baptism, they forgot pretty quickly. When I was logging in the system it has your first name up and I had the IWB on, some the kids were surprised until a few pointed out I had previously told them my first and middle name LAST lesson.
     
  18. I've always been addressed by first name in front of the class or, in one case (thanks to an ICT technician who clearly didn't think it through) given away by the windows programme list thing projected onto the Smartboard. I think it was always accidental, but the kids don't ask because they already know, and no response from me just made it boring. I also have a well-locked down facebook profile, one child did try to 'friend' me but just denied it.

    My old housemate Jay was quite a cool, dapper sort of bloke and often said things very convincingly. People, and his pupils, so often ask was the 'J' stands for that depending on his mood he can be anything from James to Jesus, or his favourite, Judas - "Yeah, it's Judas. I don't exactly like having the name Judas so that's why everyone calls me J...".

    Even if he tells the truth it winds people up!
    "What's the J stand for?"
    "Jay."
    "Yeah, but what's that stand for?"
    "Jay." repeat ad nauseum.
     
  19. My name, address and date of birth were on my Supply agency ID card that I was supposed to wear in school. I tended not to, but mainly because everytime I bent down down to talk to a child, it would swing on its chain and hit them in the face.
    I now work in a school where everyone is known by their first names, the only problem I find with this is that I tend not to know people's surnames and there are several staff have the same first name. I've only been there 3 weeks though!
     
  20. TediousMissD

    TediousMissD New commenter

    I tell the kids to guess, They know my initials thanks to the school system. It gives them some entertainment for about 5 mins. Then I tell them its Tiger Lily or tinkerbell. Its good for a giggle.
     

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