# Minimum for higher

Discussion in 'Mathematics' started by princessmelody, Mar 16, 2017.

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1. ### princessmelodyNew commenter

Hi
What is the minimum mock mark for you to be confident to put a pupil in for higher? We're OCR and the previously C/D borderline kids are getting around 25%. Possibly going to get them to try a foundation paper to see what they get.

2. ### pi r squaredOccasional commenter

Given the wide spread of grades on the Higher paper (ie. 'allowable' 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9), it seems extremely unlikely that 25% would drop off the bottom of the paper. In fact I would almost suggest that 25% could be a Grade 5 - if not, then definitely snapping at the heels of it.

I think we are broadly going on:
>20% - no brainer - stick with Higher
10-20% - individual decisions based on knowledge of the students
<10% - at risk - switch to Foundation tier​

Discussion on Twitter is currently: some say 20, some say 25, and some say 30. We're round about the 25/80 mark.

4. ### TonyM19New commenter

I'm pulling my hair out with this at the moment.

I have an old style borderline C/B group which I have picked up in Y11 - they have had a chequered past in terms of supply and non specialists in Y9 and 10. We are doing Edexcel. The class have a mean score of 22/80 in the latest set of secure mocks (with a range from 36 to 14 - 2/3 of the class scored 25+). I had a couple of students who had been around the mean that I tried on a Foundation paper - they got in the high 50s. Targets for the class range from Grade 5 to Grade 7.

Anybody in the same sort of situation willing to let me know their thoughts on Tiers of entry. My main worry is getting the content into them before the exam - they have so many gaps. I was surprised at the scores of the students who did Foundation and its evident that they would need more practice on the style of question in there

I'm thinking <20 marks/80 = Foundation

5. ### Beech2015New commenter

I think 20 may be too high, 12 or less I would switch to foundation ( I hope I am not too far off).

Trouble is the students that would maybe hit the 4 on the higher paper are struggling to get a 2 when I have them sit foundation.(Based of course on my made up grade boundaries but they are in line with other schools I have moderated with)

Such a difficult decision to make!