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Milan - the ugliest city in Italy?

Discussion in 'Teaching overseas' started by David Getling, Apr 15, 2012.

  1. David Getling

    David Getling Senior commenter

    I'm no expert on Italy, having only been to Venice, and very briefly poked my nose into Rome, but I do know butt ugly when I see it and I think Milan (where I am currently living) fits the description well. Those who are kinder would probably make comments about all the nice places that are accessible from it. Also, if you are going to be ugly then you should at least have the decency to be cheap, but Milan is a rip-off.

    So, what do those who know Italy far better than me think? Am I being unfair, or is Milan the most expensive and ugliest city in all of Italy?
     
  2. lovely.lady

    lovely.lady Occasional commenter

    No not unfair at all! Currently reside there also but choose not live in the centre. However, I don't really find where I live, near Milano due, that 'pretty' also. Expensive - certainly for some things but supermarket wine and transport is cheap, don't you think?
     
  3. David Getling

    David Getling Senior commenter

    Agree on the transport. Also about the ordinary plonk, but I'll swear that I could buy the decent wines (even the italian ones) cheaper in Germany or the UK. As for supermarkets in general, they seem considerably more expensive than Germany or the UK - even Esselunga. As Germans and Brits typically earn more it looks like the poor Italians are being well and truly ripped off.

    I assume you are teaching here, but not at the same one as me. Fortunately I'm only doing a maternity cover, and really looking forward to returning to Germany.
     
  4. SMT dude

    SMT dude New commenter

    First of all welcome back DG, please stay around, and thanks for kind words elsewhere, LL.
    The news that you both dwell in the same city, popping up on the screen during my hack through the dismal inbox, caused great joy.
    Have you met?
    Are you in a steady 'relayshunsheep'?
    Or... are you one and the same, DG rubbing the equations off his whiteboard of an evening and hurrying home to effect his nocturnal transformation into a Lovely Lady?
    The world needs to know.
    A fairly frequent tourist in Bella Italia, and of course an expert in Italian mores having spent ten years in the cities of the Rio de La Plata, I think Naples is nastier than Milan, and there is no city on that historic peninsula where I would willingly reside.
    Well, Pompeii, perhaps.
     
  5. David Getling

    David Getling Senior commenter

    Sorry to disappoint, but I'm not a virtual cross-dresser.

    Yes, from what I've heard I can imagine some aspects of life being nastier in Naples, but I gather it's perched on a beautiful coastline, which is why I think Milan might win the prize.
     
  6. yasimum

    yasimum New commenter

    It is true that Milano wouldn't win the fairest of them all but I found, when I was there many years ago, that I was entranced by the elegance of its inhabitants. I couldn't take my eyes off them which kinda made up for the city's flaws.
     
  7. SMT dude

    SMT dude New commenter

    No, it's sprawled over a putrid inlet.
    The 'beautiful perches' are (or were) elsewhere on the coast, but even these (been to Sorrento recently?) have been castigated by capitalists, murdered by motorcars, sold off by socialists - just like the Iberian littoral all the way from Cascais to Cerbère.
    Luddite, moi?
     
  8. yasimum

    yasimum New commenter

    That is sad. Sorrento was stunning in 1983. Never forget swimming in that beautiful jewel sea and nipping across to Capri and eating the freshest pinkest figs I have ever seen.
     
  9. lovely.lady

    lovely.lady Occasional commenter

    Me neither!
    I much prefer Torino as a beautiful city!
    David Getling I will tell you where I am if you tell me where you are!
    Germany is much better - you know where you are with the Germans would also love to go back there!
    I find it so difficult to get decent cuts of meat despite having a local butcher on Via Rombon (clue to the school - near Lambrate FS). I love Italy but also hate it so much - if that makes sense??
     
  10. David Getling

    David Getling Senior commenter

    And it's got much better access to skiing/mountains.

    Yeh, I know what you mean. I got some filet pork a few weeks ago. Always before it's just been a matter of slicing it up, but I had to do half an hours surgery on this piece.
     
  11. SMT dude

    SMT dude New commenter

    Marinade overnight in enough cheap Pinot Grigio to cover the meat. Next day, simmer very gently in the same liquid, along with two or three peppercorns and juniper berries, and a slice or two of onion, carrot and celery, for four hours.
    Drain, keep the meat warm, discard the soggy veg.,reduce the liquid vigorously over strong heat, allow to cool a little, then stir in sour cream. Season to taste, add a few small cooked button mushrooms and a handful of chopped parsley if desired, pour the mixture over the meat, served in slices with rice and a green vegetable. Surplus slices even better cold next day as your school packed lunch, in a ciabatta packed with mostarda mantovana.
    Milan will begin to look beautiful. You students will say, "Why can't you stay on at this school signor,, you are a buffone at Maths but you're a great cook."
     
  12. lovely.lady

    lovely.lady Occasional commenter

    How many stars do you have, SMT?
     
  13. BigFrankEM

    BigFrankEM Occasional commenter

    Isn't Milan the city where bar prices rise 15% for every 50cm distance from the bar: with a supplementary surcharge of 50% for breathing the Vespa fumes directly ? And the VAT on top too !
     
  14. srl

    srl

    Do either of you work at the Sir James Henderson school? Thinking of applying for a job there and any info on the school and Milan as a place to live would be great! SRL
     
  15. lovely.lady

    lovely.lady Occasional commenter

    1, 2, 3 Take it away, Mods!
     

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