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Meanwhile, in France...

Discussion in 'Personal' started by Vince_Ulam, Apr 19, 2018.

  1. Photo51

    Photo51 Established commenter

    I've heard people say that would be willing to pay even more tax to help out with public spending. Obviously they weren't French.
  2. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

  3. artboyusa

    artboyusa Star commenter

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  4. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Appears you were right...

    Eiffel Tower to close, 140 arrested, school protests spreading...

    Got to say it, on things like this I admire the French. The UK government screws us over time and again, tax cuts for the wealthy, regressive tax hikes for working folk, piling law on law, criminalising opinions... the French resist... we are supine.
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  5. artboyusa

    artboyusa Star commenter

    Trop vrai. If the French had voted for Frexit and their overlord class tried to screw them over like voters in this country are being screwed over with Brexit the Élysée would be smouldering ruins.
  6. Photo51

    Photo51 Established commenter

    Certainly riots, arson, looting, death/injury, multi million costs and major economic damage work wonders in getting government attention and results. Checking it out this weekend
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  7. Weald56

    Weald56 Established commenter

    Most of the cars burnt and shops looted last weekend belonged to ordinary people, but the French elite. It's just an excuse to riot.
  8. Weald56

    Weald56 Established commenter

    'Not' the French elite, of course!
  9. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    The vast majority peacefully protested.

    Focusing on the thuggish rioting minority is a tactic of establishment thinking.
  10. Weald56

    Weald56 Established commenter

    If it was your car that was burnt, or shop that was looted, would you think that?
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  11. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    That the majority of protesters were peaceful? yes... because that is what the evidence suggests. I wouldn't take the actions of a minority and then tar the whole majority with it...

    Are you suggesting the actions of a minority should tar the majority? Because it reads like that...
  12. Vince_Ulam

    Vince_Ulam Star commenter

    Students in Mantes-La-Jolie, 60km West of Paris, 6th December:


    French government defends heavy-handed police tactics against students

    'Videos and photos of the students from two high schools in Val Fourre, a deprived neighborhood outside Mantes-La-Jolie, 60 kilometers west of Paris, went viral on social media late on Thursday, prompting public outrage.

    “Over the past few days, the students have been joined by about 100 hooded youths armed with clubs and incendiary devices and determined to pick a fight with police,” Interior Minister Christophe Castaner told a news conference.

    Castaner said roadblocks had been set alight, projectiles hurled at motorists and houses robbed in the area around the two schools.
    Reuters.com, 7th December 2018.

    Toulouse students, 4th December:

    Toulouse students, 5th December:

    Toulouse students, 6th December:

    Goodbye Toulouse.
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  13. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

  14. Weald56

    Weald56 Established commenter

    I'm suggesting that few people who - through no fault of their own - lost their car or perhaps their livelihood, would say so blithely what you did. I think most would be spitting mad at the lawless lowlifes who took advantage of the protests to do either vandalise or loot.

    Perhaps you would smile and refuse to criticise the protesters. I don't think many people would, though.
  15. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter

  16. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Ah shucks... it's another ''how offensive''... another ''I'm going to strawman you instead of engaging''...

    So I describe the rioters as a ''thuggish minority'' but you can't read that ... why is that?

    Now why is it you like to tar the majority with the actions of the minority?
  17. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Odd that you mention that... but not the elderly woman who was killed by police firing a tear gas canister at her head?

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  18. artboyusa

    artboyusa Star commenter

    Well, if this kind of treatment doesn't teach those kids to love and respect their rulers, nothing will.

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  19. Photo51

    Photo51 Established commenter

    Out of cities, they are a bit of a pain. Blocking thre road on roundabouts witha bonfire in the middle to keep warm. Police just watching so the traffic tailback doesn't go too far back. Like random picket lines.
  20. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

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