Birmingham - that dreadful area. Used to have grammar schools, no longer. What they do have are some selective schools- King Edward's, which are way over subscribed. These exist alongside comprehensive schools. When Brum did have grammars they existed alongside both secondary moderns and comprehensives. Many academies are selective and sit alongside non-selective academies/comprehensives. I do not see the new grammars being like the old grammars. They probably won't even be called grammars. I do not foresee that children will be forced to take the 11 plus unless they or their parents so wish. I do not see that conveyor belt factories for 1200-1500 students, where staff don't even know their names, are the way forward. Remember, I work in FE and see the results (failures) of these comprehensives. If I had a fiver for every dyslexic kid who has spent 11 years in the system without being diagnosed I could go on a world cruise. Stop telling me these comprehensives are great. They are not. The kids who have been through them say they are not. I also think that the ban on LAs opening schools needs to be rescinded. Politicians and teachers may be against grammar schools but the public are either in favour of them or couldn't care less. If there was a referendum I suspect that those who wanted (grammar) let's call them selective schools, would vote in favour and those who couldn't care less wouldn't vote.