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Mathematicians should be organising the school care for key worker children, but they are not...

Discussion in 'Education news' started by MrMedia, Mar 21, 2020.

  1. MrMedia

    MrMedia Star commenter

    So, if you have 70 staff, some of whom are eligible to work and 200 children that need to be looked after - what set up reduces the social interaction percentages and ratios to the minimum?

    if a school brings all 70 staff, less those self isolating or on the 12 week list they are creating more interactions than necessary. Yet 30% of schools are insisting on all staff in according to Teacher Tapp today. That’s a huge unnecessary extra risk.

    Also, the children should be not be allowed to interact. You should have small groups of children who only ever interact with select teachers.

    I don’t even have the maths to do all of this. But scale this up and down the country and we have the wrong people in charge. It needs some modelling and some mathematics.

    Why are not mathematicians in charge of organising school provision of child care?
     
  2. rararasputin

    rararasputin Established commenter

    All staff in is ridiculous. We have a rota and 2 classrooms.
     
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  3. moscowbore

    moscowbore Lead commenter

    So you plan to pack children into 2 rooms? How socially distant is that?
    Will the teachers have ppe? Do you have a plan for what happens if a child gets sick? Do you have a plan for what happens if one of the teachers gets cv19? Will the school close?
     
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  4. PeterQuint

    PeterQuint Lead commenter

    If there are 32 children in school, you’d be better off with two classes of 16, or even four of 8.

    Of course, that means more staff.
     
  5. SomethingWicked

    SomethingWicked Occasional commenter

    We're sticking the ~30 students in the (large-ish) library with two adults supervising, and strict instructions to all about distance, hand-washing, etc. I think we're also planning on putting movies on in the hall (with adequately spaced seating, of course!). Putting them in smaller spaces (classrooms) seems too risky.
     
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  6. thyr

    thyr Occasional commenter

    Why does it need a mathematician?
    Surely anyone with s gram of common sense can work put how to sort things...
     
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  7. Lalex123

    Lalex123 Established commenter

    Did you not know? Maths teachers are still more important than the rest of us, even at a time like this! :D:cool:;)
     
  8. MrMedia

    MrMedia Star commenter

    It’s definitely mathematics. You want the fewest amount of interactions possible. So schools are running rotas. Every week a new team comes in and interacts with the same children. Is that better or worse than having the same team every week? For interactions (as no one wants to be on the team that always goes in!)
     
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  9. blazer

    blazer Star commenter

    That's what we were doing but today reduced it to 1 teacher in one classroom as the number of kids coming in has halved.
     
  10. bessiesmith2

    bessiesmith2 New commenter

    It's not really maths but management that is needed. 200 children who need to be in school, with a staff of only 70 sounds way too high. Although the rules are that only 1 parent needs to be a key-worker in order to qualify for a place, we have been phoning parents to emphasise that while we are very happy to look after children if both parents are out doing key-worker jobs, if either parent is at home, whether working from home or not, it is in their interest to keep their children at home or risk the children bringing the virus home and infecting the whole family. The result is we have fewer than 20 children attending and a total staff of just over 50.

    We then put those children into 2 classrooms and they are well spread out. Obviously from a purely maths point of view, fewest interactions will occur if we have the same couple of staff coming in every day. However, from a social justice point of view I don't think any of the staff would feel this was fair - and if you want a cohesive staff team then fairness is pretty imperative. So we have a rota - everyone comes in rarely, in turns. Not too much interaction for anyone, and no-one feels aggrieved or guilty.
     

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