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Marijuana and educational underachievement

Discussion in 'Education news' started by dunnocks, Sep 11, 2018.

  1. chelsea2

    chelsea2 Star commenter

    Isn't there research that some people have an addictive personality?

    Whatever the addiction: gambling, drinking, drugs, computer games - for such people giving up (even if they want to) is almost impossible.

    All addictions are detrimental to health and lifestyle, and often have a hugely negative effect on those around you.

    And, sadly, for these people giving up one addiction often results in becoming addicted to something else.
     
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  2. snowyhead

    snowyhead Lead commenter

    'Identical twin COUSINS' think about it ;)
     
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  3. dunnocks

    dunnocks Star commenter

    I don't think you have understood my post.

    They are my cousins

    They are identical twins

    what do you think I mean?
     
  4. snowyhead

    snowyhead Lead commenter

    Now I understand - you have cousins who are identical twins. Not identical twins who are cousins because that would really be a problem :)
     
  5. PeterQuint

    PeterQuint Lead commenter

  6. dunnocks

    dunnocks Star commenter

    do you think my cousins are imaginary?
     
  7. PeterQuint

    PeterQuint Lead commenter

    You cannot decide whether a substance is dangerous based on one set of twins.
     
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  8. ScienceGuy

    ScienceGuy Occasional commenter

    Inevitably, most comments on this issue will end up being anecdotal and coloured by commentators own points of view.

    Up until relatively recently (about 3-4 years ago), I had not seen Marijuana as a major issue for educational difficulties. That was until I taught a student in Yr 11 who was a heavy cannabis smoker, having taught him previously in Yr 8. The difference in his cognitive abilities was huge - he had gone from being an average student in terms of ability to being in bottom set, his processing speed was significantly worse and his concentration span was much lower.

    I am aware that this is just another anecdote about a single student, but it does show the damage marijuana can cause to some individuals (though not necessarily everyone)
     
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  9. dunnocks

    dunnocks Star commenter

    I'm deciding based on decades of teaching and thousands of students, users and nonusers,

    ( I should probably say some students you can tell use cannabis, and some who students who don't appear to. Most of the students who have appeared, from their general change in attitude/drop in grades/demeanor, to be using cannabis, have eventually admitted it, sometimes not during their school days, but when I encounter them again later. Very occasionally I have been surprised when a student is found to be using, or who admits to me later that they were using, but more than 19 times out of 20, when you hear that evidence has been found, or someone has admitted it, we already knew, because it showed in their attitudes and grades)
     
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  10. ridleyrumpus

    ridleyrumpus Senior commenter

    Because they are identical twin brothers but also cousins....
     
  11. ridleyrumpus

    ridleyrumpus Senior commenter

    Which the OP or post 13?
     
  12. ridleyrumpus

    ridleyrumpus Senior commenter

    punctuation and grammar is a wonderful thing. ;)
     
  13. dunnocks

    dunnocks Star commenter

    again, they are brothers to each other, and cousins to me. How could they be cousins and brothers legally
     
  14. Vince_Ulam

    Vince_Ulam Star commenter

    The second.
     
  15. dunnocks

    dunnocks Star commenter

    They are my identical twin cousins, nothing wrong with that punctuation r grammar
     
  16. camillagallop

    camillagallop New commenter

    You do realise @Pomza was being sarcastic, right?
     
  17. Vince_Ulam

    Vince_Ulam Star commenter

    Oh look, a new member.
     
  18. eljefeb90

    eljefeb90 Senior commenter

    I am with @dunnocks on this. I had always been relatively liberal on smoking dope, even though I had never partaken. I made a flippant comment regarding cannabis smoking in front of a friend of mine and she reacted quite aggressively. I had not realised that her brother , whom I knew to be schizophrenic, had had the condition triggered by cannabis use in his mid to late teens.
    With the increasing use of stronger strains by ever younger students, you could see the effect it was having on their demeanour and cognition.
     
  19. camillagallop

    camillagallop New commenter

    Hi!
     
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  20. camillagallop

    camillagallop New commenter

    In the original post, you wrote:

    In this statement, the absence of a possessive pronoun, such as ‘my’, implies that the twins mentioned are themselves cousins. The adjectives ‘identical’ and ‘twin’ precede the noun ‘cousins’, further underlining this implication.

    It’s not necessarily an incorrect statement, just a confusing one.
     

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