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Letting staff go with minimal notice

Discussion in 'Workplace dilemmas' started by LILA57, Jul 23, 2019.

  1. LILA57

    LILA57 New commenter

    Why do some schools let long term agency staff go with minimal notice?Surely except in extreme circumstances it is basic courtesy to give a little notice at the end of the year?I gave known this happen in more than one school though do not want to give specifics?
     
  2. Billie73

    Billie73 Occasional commenter

    At my school it’s usually for safeguarding reasons or being unprofessional. I know at least in my department we try to hang onto good agency staff for as long as possible and treat them as if they are permanent.
     
  3. starlightexpress

    starlightexpress Occasional commenter

    Yes, that’s the only reason, otherwise I’d say goodbye like I would contracted staff.

    However, agency roles are ones which can be ended. This, in my experience, usually suits both school and teacher. I’ve also known agency staff to not come back to work the notice if notice given- choice or agency moves the next placement.
     
  4. JohnJCazorla

    JohnJCazorla Star commenter

    I've been on both ends of this as long-term supply but I don't mind it as I like the 'freedoms' which go with supply so I don't complain about the downside.

    Like the squaddies say
    "If you can't take a joke, you shouldn't have signed up"
     
  5. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

    It might be courteous but it's not a legal requirement and the school is hardly at liberty to discuss with agency staff if (for example) a permanent member of staff returns unexpectedly after a prolonged absence.
     
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  6. lovejoy_antiques

    lovejoy_antiques Occasional commenter

    I've seen a lot of supply teachers escorted off site due purely to the fickle whims of well known trouble makers! Student voice in action!
     
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  7. LILA57

    LILA57 New commenter

    Thank you for the insights..useful to have a broader view..
     
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  8. pepper5

    pepper5 Star commenter

    lovejoy_antiques

    I am glad that never happened to me. How embarrassing to be escorted off a school site because of student complaints.
     
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  9. TrueFaith

    TrueFaith New commenter

    A supply colleague was told he was no longer required because a pupil from one of his classes was witnessed yelling out of the window by the executive headteacher's wife...
     
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  10. caterpillartobutterfly

    caterpillartobutterfly Star commenter

    Oooops!
    Possibly depends on what was yelled?! :D
     
  11. peakster

    peakster Star commenter

    A supply teacher friend of mine told me once that after a few weeks at one school he turned up one morning - walked into his classroom - and found another supply teacher in there. He'd been replaced without anyone telling him.
     
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  12. a1976

    a1976 Occasional commenter

    I was told that I wasn't needed two weeks before the school term ended because the school said they could cover the last two weeks in house. Of course, they knew I was ready to leave after a disastrous term of horrendous year tens and was tempted to send them a Christmas thank you card :)

    However, while on supply and while teaching to a contract, I saw schools beg for teachers then play the game of how much does it take to drive them out.
     
  13. miranda-s

    miranda-s New commenter

    A former colleague of mine was employed on a one year Sept-Aug contract but was told after Christmas that she would be made permanent from the start of the following year. She had this confirmed in an email, but was never given a new contract to sign - she was told that this would be done at the end of the year or the start of the new year. You can guess what's coming...in mid June, the deputy head stopped her in the corridor on the way to the last lesson on a Friday and said words to the effect of "I was just coming to see you, we're really sorry but we're not going to be able to offer you a post next year after all". The poor woman had to go and teach her lesson having effectively just been fired out of the blue in a corridor, and of course nobody was available to discuss it with her after school. What an awful way to treat someone who'd worked hard and done a great job all year, especially leaving it so late in the year that there was little chance of her getting a new job.
     
  14. miranda-s

    miranda-s New commenter

    A former colleague of mine was employed on a one year Sept-Aug contract but was told after Christmas that she would be made permanent from the start of the following year. She had this confirmed in an email, but was never given a new contract to sign - she was told that this would be done at the end of the year or the start of the new year. You can guess what's coming...in mid June, the deputy head stopped her in the corridor on the way to the last lesson on a Friday and said words to the effect of "I was just coming to see you, we're really sorry but we're not going to be able to offer you a post next year after all". The poor woman had to go and teach her lesson having effectively just been fired out of the blue in a corridor, and of course nobody was available to discuss it with her after school. What an awful way to treat someone who'd worked hard and done a great job all year, especially leaving it so late in the year that there was little chance of her getting a new job.
     
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  15. JohnJCazorla

    JohnJCazorla Star commenter

    Gimme a country that's red white and blue
    Gimme the British way honest and true
    Gimme the chance to be one of the few
    Gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme


    Gimme a nation where people are free
    Free to do and free to be
    Free to screw you before you screw me
    Gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme


    (Chorus:)
    Cos, I'm all right, I'm all right
    Union Jack, fly the flag


    Gimme a Britain that's got back the Great
    a race of winners not cramped by the State
    And only the helpless get left at the gate
    Gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme
    Stiff Little Fingers - Fly the Flag


    Though written in the 80s and set in the vast problems of Northern Ireland it still seems relevant now.:(
     
  16. Piranha

    Piranha Star commenter

    Sounds like a very clear breach of contract to me. A job offer made and accepted cannot be rescinded like this, and she has evidence in writing. Has she spoken to he union?
     

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