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Lets ban all private cars from London - that would win my vote

Discussion in 'Personal' started by Corvuscorax, Nov 28, 2019.

  1. Corvuscorax

    Corvuscorax Star commenter

    Exception for disabled badge holders, and work vehicles, minicabs, taxis, residents only allowed to drive on journies that take them out of London. Double the buses, we don't need cars in London. I know some other cities are planning private car bans in the future, ( eg Oxford)

    decrease uses of fossil fuel, massive decrease in pollution, plus freeing up all car parking spaces for other uses, especially new residential buildings, hugely improve flood defenses, and travel time in London would halve.

    Why do we allow private cars in London anyway?
     
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  2. Corvuscorax

    Corvuscorax Star commenter

    It will have to happen sooner or later anyway
     
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  3. Wotton

    Wotton Lead commenter

    Which part of London, the square mile or the rest of it? They would need to greatly improve the tube. Last time I was in London I had to get on the tube at peak time and it was awful. What if you were travelling to another area of the uk to visit friend/family and public transport transport wasn't suitable. You would have to travel outside the banned area and either hire a car or keep your car there. What about people who have to travel for business.
     
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  4. Weald56

    Weald56 Established commenter

    A few questions - what do you define as London? How do you know that residents are only using their cars to drive out of London? Why shouldn't I be allowed to drive into the capitol (on a Sunday, as it happens) to move my daughter (& possessions) from one flat to another - she doesn't drive by the way.
     
  5. Corvuscorax

    Corvuscorax Star commenter

    all of it. We would need at least double the number of buses
     
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  6. lizziescat

    lizziescat Star commenter

    Out of interest, what do each of these categories contribute to the percentages of the current traffic, compared to private cars?

    Would residents be allowed to ‘stop off somewhere ‘ on ‘their way out’ of London.
     
  7. Corvuscorax

    Corvuscorax Star commenter

    Apparently private cars are the vast majority of traffic I see in London. 95%+, without disabled badges or taxi Id.

    The difference between travelling by taxi/minicab and private car is the parking space.

    25 people travel in private cars at different times of the day, 25 parking spaces needed in London.

    25 people travel in the same minicab at different times of the day, 1 parking space needed.

    24 parking spaces saved. An area the size of 12 parking spaces for green space and drainage. An area the size of 12 parking spaces for living accommodation. 2-4 families with children.

    This is an over simplification, obviously, just for illustrative purposes.
     
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  8. frangipani123

    frangipani123 Lead commenter

    There are many people who don't qualify for a disabled badge but have some mobility difficulties. The Tube is great if you can go up and down stairs easily, but that isn't everyone.
     
  9. Aquamarina1234

    Aquamarina1234 Star commenter

    A walk to the bus stop has been too far for me at various times. How about subsidising taxis? £1 flat fare for public transport? Either you want to save the planet or you don't.
     
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  10. needabreak

    needabreak Star commenter

    Perhaps we should ban people living in London *tongue in cheek... After all their good and services use vehicles to meet that demand...
     
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  11. dumpty

    dumpty Star commenter

    Are cars not banned from Oxford Street and yet it is one of the most polluted roads and areas on Earth?

    If you don't ban everyone, those you give free lunches to will want more free lunches. I would fear just many more taxi cabs, busses and a surprising amount of newly disabled drivers.

    I think the only solution is to have more absolute all vehicle free areas - areas only open to pedestrians.
     
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  12. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Star commenter

    You could get the same effect by only allowing diesel vehicles.
     
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  13. Rott Weiler

    Rott Weiler Star commenter Forum guide

    Why do you want Londoners to be banned from driving cars but not the people of Manchester and Chipping Norton?
     
  14. moscowbore

    moscowbore Lead commenter

    Ban all cars from all city centres. I am all for that.
    Replace with good public transport.
     
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  15. Ivartheboneless

    Ivartheboneless Star commenter

    Nuke all cities! Sorted! ;) (Well except Chester)
     
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  16. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    Less than a third of London workers rely on a car or van to get in. The tube does come in a close second, with more than fifth of workers using the underground. Then comes the bus and the train, followed by walking, and cycling (around 4% get on their bike). More than twice as many people walk than cycle (stats are a few years out of date).

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25175752
     
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  17. burajda

    burajda Star commenter

    Its totally useless if you have to commute to a destination at 90 degrees from Central London
     
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  18. magic surf bus

    magic surf bus Star commenter

    Currently in the big smoke in our private car working in a school. No way could we transport our kit by public transport, or cheaply by taxi. Took 50 minutes to drive 5 miles from the motel this morning. Does that make us a work vehicle?
     
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  19. oldsomeman

    oldsomeman Star commenter

    Hover craft would be ideal if they can pick us up in outer London and deposit use where we want in central London.
    As for tubes ugh I use them. My wife struggles to get on a bus and they rarely run on time.Of late some of the outer London buses sem to be holding hands as they have 2 arriving at the same time!
    I suppose we could build a new capital in Birmingham or Manchester and then all the folk will move there. Save crowding on the tubes.
     
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  20. Weald56

    Weald56 Established commenter


    You are joking, I hope! Hovercraft were incredibly noisy and very fuel inefficient. Terribly for the environment!
     

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