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Leaving teaching?

Discussion in 'Professional development' started by stormysky, Apr 28, 2009.

  1. count me in too! - I'm Burnt out after 8 years and cannot find an alternative that pays reasonably. But getting a low paid job would be worth it to have my health back and a life beyond the school gates.
  2. Hi Kiwibirdy & Sciblu
    Thanks for the postings
    I have sent a PM to both of you
  3. Oh this could be word for word what I'm going through at the moment. I spent most of this evening in floods of tears and utter despair at what I'm doing after getting a complaint from one of my parents- much of which is unfair and untrue, but there's a group of parents who (even the head has admitted) 'have it in for me' at the moment and spend their time circulating rumours and gossiping on the playground.
    I've been told I need to work super hard to get back on their good side, but I've just about had enough. Continual demoralisation from one side or another seems to be outweighing all the good elements of the job at the moment, and I am rapidly losing all the enthusiasm and enjoyment I used to have for it. I have a lesson observation tomorrow, but aside from crying my eyes out, all I've been able to focus on is typing 'leaving teaching' into Google and seeing what comes up!

  4. I really enjoyed my NQT year, but it was so much work, doing work in evenings, weekends etc. Now I feel totally demoralised, and just don't care any more becaause of the attitude of the kids, lack of management, a crazy HOD. I don't even want to help the kids a lot of the time, and I can't be bothered to make an effort. I don't think I should be a teacher, but like everyone else I don't know what to do.
  5. I have posted a thread on New Career Directions - 'Gatherings for those Dreaming of Leaving Teaching'
    It may be of interest to people on this thread.
    I have sent a PM to Artlove and Rachelwins - thanks for your messages
    Hope everyone can enjoy the sense of relief and freedom that half term brings

  6. This sounds exactly like my situation too. I have decided that I want to leave teaching, does anybody have any tips about how to make the move from teaching into other careers?
  7. My goodness, I can't believe what I have just read. I am 'you'! We have sold our souls to the devil when really we thought we were helping the children of the future. It is so very sad. I do wish you luck and hope you find peace. The 'top-down' pressure pushers need to get into the classroom and experience their own 'bright ideas' and demands and see how they get on!
  8. I've been teaching for a few years now and worked in two schools. From this experience, I've found it to be a case of 'better the devil you know' when it comes to moving schools. My first school didn't do some things so well which my current does, but then there are plenty of gripes that I have about where I am now.
    It's not being in the classroom that's the problem, it's all the other stuff that goes with it..the paperwork, preparation, constant change, poor management..etc. It does get easier with experience BUT all that happens is that you get landed with other wider school responsibilities to fill in the gap. You're never on top of things and it seems acceptable, almost expected, for teachers to work excessive hours. My Team Leader (who is non-teaching) recently joked about someone taking their full lunch as she "always used to work through hers when she was teaching". This sort of attitude that teachers should give their blood seems commonplace from management. In my last school, I was criticised by a colleague for moaning that there was no budget left for me to pay for some ingredients when I wanted to do cooking. "You'll just have to pay for it with your own money" I was told. I don't know of any other profession where staff have to buy work materials from their own salary.
    I'm not saying that you wont experience problems in other careers - plenty of my other friends have pressurised jobs that they complain about (although they earn a lot more than me) - but do consider other options, especially if you're young and have the flexibility to start again. The problem with a lot of teachers I have seen, is that they leave it too late to think about moving and it becomes difficult to do so because they risk losing their salary by starting a new career.
  9. You are so on the money there. My school tutor said something on the lines of...."don't stay too long in teaching if you're not sure you want to do it or are miserable, because you will become trapped".
    Her other words of wisdom was something like "only teach if your heart is really into it, otherwise don't bother".
    She gave me the most realistic, useful and practical advice in my entire teaching career, all in two sentences. Teachers wanting to quit..heed her words of warning.
  10. Hi all,
    I just wanted to say thank you to all of you for making me feel so much better about how I'm feeling about my job! I've been feeling miserable for a while now - I teach Year 5 - and I typed in 'leaving teaching' on here just out of interest, and it has really reassured me knowing that I'm not alone in feeling so demotivated so early into my career! This is my fifth year in the job and I am sick of feeling constantly exhausted and stressed, and always feeling like there's more I need to do, despite the fact I KNOW I work hard. I'm always asking myself 'is the job security and steady money worth it?' I know how lucky I am to have a secure, reasonably-paid job but I just get no satisfaction from it. I'm tired of ticking boxes and stressing out about meeting targets, and constantly being grumpy with the kids because I'm under pressure for them to make their predicted levels at the end of the year. I'm tired of being disrespected and unappreciated by children who have no manners because they spend too much time playing on computer games at home. I'm tired of feeling guilty about actually enjoying myself at weekends and in holidays because I know there's a constant stream of jobs I could be doing for school. My fiance left school with poor qualifications but went straight into an apprenticeship as an electrician and worked his way up. He now earns around the same salary as me, AND he gets to leave his work at work at the end of the day, and enjoy his evenings and weekends! There has to be more to life than this, I've lost my spark and enthusiasm and I just can't seem to get it back. I'd love to know if there's been any teachers who have felt like this, but have managed to get their enthusiasm and spark back??
  11. Hi,
    Again, I know exactly how the previous posters feel! I'm in my 3rd year of teaching - I'm in my second school, had hoped that moving to a 'better' school would improve teh way I feel about teh job, and whilst the behaviour is much better, I am still stressed and feelign guilty for letting people down all teh time. I am applying for other posts, but not really sure what I want to do! I used to work in environmental education which I absolutely loved, but teh pay was dire, and, as I am now 30, I would really like to start thinking about buying a house, so don;t really want to take a pay cut.
    I am still looking for jobs in the environmental education sector, but well paid jobs are few and far between. I'd also consider an education officer post with a charity or other organisation - I know where to look for environmental jobs, but if anyone could advise on other education posts I'd appreciate it. Also, I am investigating whether or not is possible to work delivering PPA cover - possibly in French - and still receive a teaching salary, as opposed to a TA salary! My other thought is to set up my own business, ideally delivering environmental education in schools, but again need to find time to investigate this properly!
    E x
  12. I'm also in a similar position. I've been teaching 2 years, in 2 different schools. I left my first school after recieving no real support for my NQT year, and bullying from the head. I felt that I'd been unlucky with my school.

    So I've started a new job. I visited the school and thought I'd asked the right questions. Turns out I ended up in a similar position, but with the added disadvantage that I'm no longer a NQT, but really need the support as I never got it - I've never planned maths from the new framework before!

    New (temporary) head at my current school has helped a little, but I've found myself without a class, as a floating teacher (which is meant to be helping support my development, but I'm spending more time babysitting badly behaved kids that getting any support). I'm desperate to get out.

    I feel like I want away from teaching, but my two placement schools when I was training were lovely. But I want my life back!

    My background is enviromental science, but I never worked in that field. Any advise on finding work doing that would be lovely.

    The big question: do I stick it out until the summer? I can't afford to not work...
  13. h01y

    h01y New commenter

    I would never let age be a barrier to following your dreams, you'll only become more resentful in the end if you don't! When I left teaching I didn't have a job lined up and I hadn't started my business but I survived! I'm a single mum with a mortgage and had 3 dependent kids at the time.
    Instead of thinking about it, start making plans, I did about 6 months before I left teaching. These are some fantastic brainstorming sheets I found the other day, and what is great about being your own boss it doesn't matter if your goals change! What I want now is very different to 5 years ago but at least I know I am moving in the right direction. Do feel free to e-mail me if you want any help, everything is confidential. x

  14. Could have been me speaking here!.

    six years in the game now - 40 in SEN which were great and two in a mainstream comp set in an area so rich it makes Hampstead Garden Suburb look like a South London Sink Estate!.

    I want my life back. Prior to teaching, worked in the City and big organisations and NEVER took work home. Now, do it all the time and feel guilty if I have not spent a goodly part of my weekend during term time doing school work.

    Oh and lets knock this holiday stuff on the head shall we?

    Firstly, they always come either in the middle or towards the end of a month - so you've not got a lot of money anyways. Secondly, they are at premium times for holidays, so you pay top dollar for everything. Oh and thirdly, unless all your other mates are teachers, who you going to socialise with during these long holidays - cos all your mates will be at work!

    As I say, the actual process of teaching is a cinch. But then there are all the targets to meet, levels to set etc, etc.

    And it might help if the children of the filthy stinking rich that I teach actually BOTHERED about their education. We have some nice kids, but for the most part they really don't care because they don't have to care.

    And as for Every Child Matters - every child what! Do me a favour! utterly meaningless.

    So whats the alternative.

    Well, there is always private sector training. There is administration of course. Then, being naturally well organised, you could become an events organiser.

    Why not have a bash at the management consultancies? Thats what I am going to do.
  15. Hi there, This is not exactly what is being talked about but I need some advice. I am an NQT but graduated nearly two years ago! I am currently working as TA but only for the last couple of months. Before that I was working as a waitress; I had to earn money somehow! I have simply not been able to get a teaching job. This year alone I have applied for over 30 (and counting) jobs and had only one interview. It's very discouraging to spend hours





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    meticulously filling in forms and writing letters of application only to have either no answer or a simple: sorry but no.
    In other words I am seriously considering leaving teaching (before I have even started really) and doing something else. I really want to teach but it just does not seem to be happening. I also do not want to think that I have wasted three years studying all for nothing. So my question is: does anyone know of other job that I can do using my degree (BA Hons)? Should I leave teaching? Or should I keep applying and hope for the best, while working as a TA? Is it worth applying seeing as I have not really had a lot of experience these last couple of years?
    As you can see, I am at a serious loss of what to do. Any advice would be very welcome!
  16. Hollyac, I would post this question on the career clinic forum on here and ask John Howson for some advice. It's a bit odd for an NQT to have applied for 30 jobs without getting interviews for 29, and possibly indicates there are problems with your CV. I think John is the best person to advise on something like this. He also has a service where he can check your CV for a fee, which I haven't used but imagine would be very useful to you.
  17. Hi Peter Piper. Thank you. I might try that. :)
  18. Wow. Reading this thread has been like listening to myself!
    I've actually bitten the bullet and handing in my notice, so just have 14 weeks of no-life left. I'm in my 5th year of teaching. Every year it has become harder rather than easier. I have 34 y5/6 pupils, 9 with IEP's, and 3 with 1:1 TA's. Managing 3 TAs has been a nightmare in itself! I feel like I'm drowning in paperwork and box ticking exercises, and have felt myself becoming more panicky and stressed by the day. The year 3/4 teacher has given her notice in too, so that's the entire KS2 staff jumping ship.
    I'm going to try supply teaching for a year and see how I feel then. I enjoy my time with the children and actually teaching, but that is only a very small part of what the job is. I want my life back. I know that there may be times when I will be earning less, but feel that my mental health and happiness are the most important things.
  19. It's funny how having a little time off really helps you to reflect....

    I thought, and had probably convinced myself, that I was always going to stay in teaching. The easter holidays have given me an opportunity to reflect upon the system in which I am working in and I have come to the conclusion that actually, it really isn't for me! I do like the job and am doing really well in my current position, but it's not where my heart lies.
    I have decided that I am going to leave, don't know when but I have seen a course that I could take to work in child mental health. Only problem is that it is one day per week, during the day. I know my school won't agree to this so I am busy trying to think of some kind of solution! Any ideas anyone?
  20. Peapod- could you arrange to have a half day off unpaid a week and then a couple of your frees on the same afternoon? A colleague of mine was allowed to do this for her MA, but we did have a 16 member dept which meant it was fairly easy to accommodate timetable wise. She also offered some extra after school stuff to help soften up the HOD! Also, I think if you REALLY want to leave, then working four days is an option if you are able to make some cuts to your budget.

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