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Leaving teaching altogether!!

Discussion in 'Supply teaching' started by msb1983, Dec 28, 2010.

  1. Finally after 5 years in teaching and 8 months in supply I am out of teaching to pursue a 'city' job!!

    Not sure if it will be any better but after 8 months of supply (minimal work, offered TA, CS and LO work!!) I finally decided enough is enough.

    Only thing is, I have to always justify why I left teaching to new people I meet, like it's the best job in the world or something.

    Anyhow I'm glad to be out! If any of you have serious doubts, be brave, make the move and quit!!
  2. Yep. There is money to be made indeed. Sadly, it isn't about money for a lot of them, it's about being a "teacher".
  3. Lara mfl 05

    Lara mfl 05 Star commenter

    Thing is ,for many of us it really IS the best job and the only job we know we'd be happy doing, so we soldier on taking any crumbs we can, just for that feel-good feeling when we do it!
  4. I can understand the decision to move out of teaching, it's only the best job if you actually have a job, and prospects of jobs are low. A TheoGriff thread quotes 33% of the trainers from two years back, and 50% of last years' have not found permanent jobs.
    Good luck in the future.
  5. magic surf bus

    magic surf bus Star commenter

    I wish you well for the future - I'll have to consider making a similar decision some time next year I'm sure. I'm only sticking with Supply for as long as it pays the bills.
  6. becky70

    becky70 Occasional commenter

    For some it is the best job in the world but it's not for everyone. Those of us who love it have to remember that it's a hellish job if it's not right for you. Most of my friends don't teach and most of them are pretty sure they'd hate it.
    I love it and am lucky enough to be working on contract at the moment. I know I'll only stand so long back on supply (if I end up back on supply) before I find something else to do. The uncertainty is too hard to take.
    The important thing is that you're happy with your decision and can look forward to the future - good luck with your new job search!
  7. I didn't have any experience outside of teaching before I got my new job but there are still many graduate jobs that you will have an advantage for. You will have picked up many valuable skills in teaching, i.e. communication at all levels, organisation, time management, team work, independent work, being creative.....the list goes on. You also have to be a quick thinker on supply and adapt to different environments quickly. Compared to other graduates you have a big advantage, don't give up!
  8. historygrump

    historygrump Star commenter Forum guide

    It is wrong that highly and expensively qualified teachers are forced to take jobs outside the profession because of the short-sightedness of HT's and politicians (both conservative and labour) in putting money before education. It was these people who introduced the unqualified to cover lessons, with the effect that they now teach and are slowly replacing qualified and permanent teachers.
    The powers that be, are in danger of turning our education system back to the bad days before the Education Act of 1870, when anyone could be used to teach and when the literacy and numeracy levels of the working class was poor to none. Hold on a minute that is what the international watchdog on education is suggesting, when are status nternationally in literacy and numeracy is dropping from premiership standards to potentially 3rd world standard. Yet it is the same old story from the politicians, it is the teachers to blame, this would be fair, if schools were not using any person to teach, we have seen posts from TA, CS teaching English and math's from primary to Gcse. No I feel sorry for those forced from the porfession, because I could be next.

  9. Me too.
  10. Well done on getting a new job!
    I'm another NQT - qualified last year. I've had a bit of an emotionally draining holiday, as I've been stressing about my "career".
    I don't think my sanity or relationship can take much more of the uncertainty of supply, so I'm also looking at jobs other than teaching. I often feel like a failure as I have worked so hard to become a qualified teacher, and I am still struggling to pay the rent every month.
    I know that I've gained loads of skills and developed professionally and personally through working on supply - but I'm so fed up of applying for jobs and attending interviews without feeling like I'm getting anywhere. It's emotionally draining.
    Any ideas for staying positive through these times?
    So far I'm trying to do regular exercise, eat healthily (gone out the window over xmas), see friends when I can. I've also just started writing a book as a creative outlet.
    What do the rest of you do to stay sane and positive?
  11. Good advice MSB.
    Writing should be seen as cathartic. Who knows, at some time in the future you may be discovered as another William McGonagall.
  12. I'm another one who's on the brink of leaving.
    I qualified in 2007 and, after a year on daily supply, managed to complete my induction through 2 long term supply positions (maternity covers.)
    However, I've now been unemployed and claiming JSA since Easter. I'd also suffered from depression. When I re-registered with the agencies there were a couple of mix-ups which werent sorted until long after the October half term. I told the agencies that I wanted pre-booked work so that I could 'get back into the swing' of supply. The result was no work and no calls except for a couple at 9 o'clock which I refused to answer - if I wasn't prepared to get a morning call at 7.30 I certainly wasn't organised to go in at that time!
    I've now accepted that I'm going to have to grit my teeth and accept morning calls but I've lost so much confidence with not having taught for 9 months. The jobcentre are on my back continually to go for any job. I turned down an interview for teaching ICT to 16-19 year olds (I'm primary trained) as it was 25 hours at minimum wage, £148 a week. I refuse to teach for minimum wage!!!
    I'd love to get a job where I could use my teaching skills, even if it's not in teaching itself. As a single person, I hate the uncertainty of supply and not being able to pay my bills. Another problem is that I'm 'mature' and I'm reluctantly coming to accept the fact that I will never get a contract.
    Sorry for the rant but I'm feeling pretty much on the scrap heap at the moment.
    PS I used to post regulaly on the forum when I was on supply but I can't remember my log in details!
  13. I don't know why schools now insist on treating ICT teaching as a TA job, but they are all at it locally. It bodes ill for permanent staff.
  14. I loved teaching and hate the assumption that other teachers make that I just wasn't as dedicated as them as I left it behind. Obviously I just wasn't meant to be a teacher as I wasn't willing to sacrifice every other part of my life for it!
    Teaching made me happy, but putting food on the table for my family makes me happier. I work for children's services which I enjoy. I don't love it like I loved teaching but it's a small sacrifice to finally be able to take my children out for the day, to pay for swimming lessons and to not stress about paying the mortgage!
  15. jubilee

    jubilee Star commenter

    Br careful how you phrase your refusals to apply for or take jobs that they come up with. After you've been claiming JSA for 13 weeks, you will have signed a newcontract with them agreeing to take any job you are capable of doing , at minimum wage if necessary.
    Refuse work because it is not your specialism , not because of the wage. You could tell them that you have enough IT skills to cope with Primary education but not enough to teach 16-19 year old students as a discrete subject.
    You can also refuse work that falls outside the woork hours that they agreed with you. You can't be made to take evening or weekend work, for instance, if you allocated at least 40 hours of availability on weekdays.
    You can also refuse to take work that would make you worse off than on Benefits, but I suspect that changes will soon be brought in there.
    Daily supply is virtually 'dead' in Secondary but you may have more luck taking early morning calls for Primary.
    You should also find out about registering as for supply with the LA, if they still have a register. You should also send you CV direct to schools and any work will then be paid at the correct rate by the LA

  16. Getting out of teaching has kept me sane. No kids to scream at, no need to tell an oblivious Charlene to take her coat off or Bradley to stop beating up another kid, no line managers bitching at me, no staffroom politics, no headteacher to boss me around like I'm some kind of peasant scum. No more life draining INSET or staff meetings either.
  17. Thanks Jubilee.
    I am aware of the problems of refusing work and I know how knowledgeable you are with regards to JSA etc. I tried to work out if I would be able to get working tax credit but it said that last year's salary is used to work out WTC - and I earned too much (a princely £14000!) Therefore, I would be getting around the same as I am on benefits, plus paying out approx £30 per week for fuel to get there! They wouldn't telll me what the actual hours were, just that it was 25 hours a week. I'm not sure if that's teaching hours (eg 3 hours a morning, 2 hours an afternoon, 5 days a week) or if it included time for planning and assessment.
    I've applied for other, non-teaching jobs, without ever receiving a reply let alone an interview.
    I had several interviews in the Autumn term for teaching jobs - just wasn't lucky enough to get the job. I have another interview next week for a long term supply post so I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
  18. I don't think it's an excuse at all and I know you like to be deliberatley provacative, stuart dann (in fact I've yet to read a useful post from you.)
    I'm 53, and a good teacher but my age goes against me all the time. Having been unable to get a contracted post since I qualified I'm not in the position of being able to fund any training myself. In fact I am perilously close to bankruptcy.
    I don't know if you get some perverse pleasure from antagonising people and I really don't know why you post on a teaching forum.
  19. historygrump

    historygrump Star commenter Forum guide

    Well said Fuzzle, you are not the only person to have critised Stuart for his negative comments, but is nice to be critical and negative if you are in a permanent post, until you are replaced by a CS or instructor or a TA. I also feel sorry for you, in that I am close to calling it a day due to financial needs and I feel that I am a good teacher, but things will not improve due to the use of the unqualified support staff to teach lessons.
    I hope you can join the march in London on April 11th being organised by Supply Teachers UK with possible support from the NUT. Against the use of the unqualified to teach, the absurd 16-month induction rule and general treatment of supply teachers by the powers that be. I hope that you will write to the press, arrange an appointment with your MP to get them to ask questions in the H of C and so raise the plight we are in.
  20. mereside

    mereside New commenter

    I am in exactly the same position. I cannot imagine many other industries that are so blatantly ageist as education. Several times I have done fairly lengthy stints of supply at schools only for them to take an NQT on when the post is advertised despite being told what a wonderful job I had been doing whilst on supply. Believe me if I could retrain or work elsewhere I would.

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