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Leaving primary classteacher and maths post for PPA cover job?

Discussion in 'Primary' started by Getzlaf2007, Apr 22, 2012.

  1. Getzlaf2007

    Getzlaf2007 New commenter

    Hi all,
    I have been a teacher for over 10 years and I am tired of the paperwork and monitoring slog of being a full time classteacher. I am on UPS1 and have a TLR for Maths. I have previously worked at schools far away from where I live and now I have a school closer to home that only takes me 20 mins to drive to. But, at this school I always have to organise things for maths which I don't really enjoy. I am tired of it, every minute I have to organise challenges and such to promote Maths! It's tiresome and I just don't like the spotlight to be honest.
    The classteacher thing is bugging me too, even though we had OFSTED earlier in the year and passed we still have monitoring, observations and all this checking all the time. So fed up with it. So, I am considering applying for PPA jobs to get away from some of these things. But these schools are further away, plus pay cut will be taken with no TLR and adiitional travel costs!. I just want to go to work and don't have too much hassle. I just go to work to get my money! can't be bothered with all this anymore. I thionk I will just aim to work up the UPS instead. MY friends have told me to drop the TLR and stay at my school instead as it is nearer and that PPA cover won't be all rosy as I will left with things the classteacher isn't keen on doing. What do other people think?
     
  2. Chezz

    Chezz New commenter

    As someone that used to do PPA cover - I can confirm that you mostly get left with whatever the CT does not like to teach. However, I did enjoy the diversity of the teaching, any year group, any activity, no 2 days were the same! I was often used to cover staff absence and so would cover a class at a moments notice. However, I had no planning to do, tracking data, reports etc. Swings and roundabouts!
     
  3. minnieminx

    minnieminx New commenter

    It isn't quite that simple. If you just want to turn up at work, teach your class and then go home you won't progress up the UPS.

    Google and look at the standards for teachers on UPS. You will need to show you are meeting them all consistently in order to progress.

    The workload is less as a PPA teacher, but you will still be expected to work hard and contribute to the school you are in. You say you have been a teacher for over 10 years, which generally means somewhere between 10 and 15 years. Are you sure you want to be stuck doing PPA for the next 10-15 years? It isn't a good career move if you decide you want to go back to class teaching and TLR later.
     
  4. Getzlaf2007

    Getzlaf2007 New commenter

    I am not lazy Minnieminx, I am a well organised teacher and I am graded as good when observed and headteachers always tell me I am a good teacher and my good practice gets shared at meetings. So, am not an awful teacher, But, I am tired of it all. I used to apply for phase leader positions and I never got them. So I don't bother anymore. I don't want to do PPA forever, no.
     
  5. minnieminx

    minnieminx New commenter

    eeek! I'm so sorry. I really didn't mean to imply you were lazy.

    Just that to move up the UPS scale you do need to show you make a difference at a school wide level.

    There is nothing at all wrong with saying 'You know what I've had enough. I'm going to have a few years just for me. I'll turn up and teach because I like that bit, but sod the rest of it all.' Then in a few years when you feel a bit bored of all that start to move on and upwards again. However for those few years you will stay where you are on the pay scale. Might be worth it.

    If you don't want to be doing PPA forever then it might be a good idea not to start.
     
  6. oldsomeman

    oldsomeman Star commenter

    Depending where you are , your specialism and personality I would say supply is pretty grotty at themoment.You might strike lucky and find a school which wil still call you back.a lot..but many calls i get as asupply are for cover supervisor positions, which out of principal i refuse...also because they are less well paid.
    I would think seriously moving into supply as you might end up with little or no income.
    Yes, your tired of the paper work and all the hassle...and supply dosn't generally have that.Some folks find it a great relief and it re-invigourates them..........but can you survive on the possiblity of little or no cash.I am a teacher of over 30 years...and last term I was offered only 10 days of supply and in the Christmas term 3 days.,and thats in London! I am fortunate in that I do have alternative ways to earn....but its still not much if your full time.
    There are some folks who might say you might change in the sense of giving up your TLR mafter all you dont have to take that responsibility...or of asking the head to change you to a different year or KS,often that is good.......for example I am finding I love infant teaching ,although a lot of my experience is in KS2
    I really do understand your feeelings as i have been there and worn the t shirt......but you need to realise that when you give up full time teaching you might also <u>never </u>get back into a full time position again.......especially, as without being rude, your getting older....and some folks do find they are overlooked for young teachers.
     
  7. becky70

    becky70 Occasional commenter

    This is a tricky one. I spent the best part of two years doing PPA cover and management release but I had been on supply for two years before that so was used to chopping and changing.
    You will definitely get the stuff the class teacher doesn't want to do in the afternoons - I always taught literacy and maths in the mornings. You also have to be pretty strong on discipline - children may regard you as a supply teacher and try to take advantage - I took on the job in a school where I was a regular supply teacher so the children knew me anyway but you would be going in cold.
    Having said that, the work life balance is great - no two ways about it. I have changed to having my own class again this year and the workload is so much heavier.
    Maybe dropping the TLR would be a way forward.
     

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