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Discussion in 'Personal' started by Hattiesmores753, Feb 11, 2020.

  1. lizziescat

    lizziescat Star commenter

    indeed, it struck me as the only sensible directive that came out of Head Office.
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  2. rouxx

    rouxx Lead commenter

    I recognise the importance for identification purposes, but does no one else find lanyards a pain...

    I'm forever hitting kids in the face with it, getting it dunked in paint, snagging it in drawers and generally finding it gets in the way.
  3. lizziescat

    lizziescat Star commenter

    I confess that in once I’d got into my clsssroom, the lanyard was on my desk in order to avoid hitting pupils in the face:)
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  4. ajrowing

    ajrowing Established commenter

    No one had my school seems to be able to explain why I (or anyone else) needs to wear a lanyard. Can anyone here help me?
    Those that be don't like my contention that their policy says that those who do not have a lanyard are high risk to the students. Given that teachers are somewhere between 10 and 20 times more likely to be assaulted by someone they know, all of us that know the students shouldn't be wearing lanyards.
  5. Mangleworzle

    Mangleworzle Star commenter

    I can't help thinking that all these "safety" reasons for lanyards are addressing a problem that doesn't exist except in so far as Ofsted thought it was something they can add to the list of things to check on.

    I also can't help feeling that the whole idea of colour coding people is a bit sinister. Don't talk to this one, don't leave this one on his own, this one has these privileges, this one has those, etc.
  6. TheOracleAtDelphi

    TheOracleAtDelphi Established commenter

    Personally, I'd rather have a lanyard than the clippy-on type which only really work if you have a top pocket and even then tend to fall off with abandon.

    I worked at one school where teachers could choose a sort of retractable cord thing to which you could attach the ID card which then clipped onto a belt loop or similar. Mainly used by science and tech teachers for whom it made a lot of sense, although did make it slightly less obvious in terms of identification.

    I can't believe your school was so kill-joy as to acceptable ties!
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  7. Sillow

    Sillow Lead commenter

    And if you have a hearing impaired pupil in your class who uses a radio aid, you must remember to remove your lanyard completely or they will be hearing it knock against the transmitter you're wearing round your neck rather than what you're saying.
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  8. WB

    WB Occasional commenter

    Is there any proof that all this access control, staff IDs and lanyards has made our children safer?

    I once challenged this stuff in a staff meeting and was told it reduces the chance of a child being abducted.

    Were there any abductions before lanyards?

    Do they just solve a problen that doesn't exist?

    Young teachers automatically and without question buy into this. Why?

    We have access control all over the building but when someone presses the buzzer they are just let in without question.
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  9. blazer

    blazer Star commenter

    It isn't just schools. Everywhere you go now employees have lanyards. Mrs B and I volunteer at a local sports venue. We have to wear lanyards that bear the name of the main sponsor which happens to be a casino. We are not allowed to substitute a lanyard of our own. Weirdly, this year the badges do not carry our photos because they are too expensive to produce each year! So anyone can pretend to be us as long as they don't swap the lanyard!
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  10. 50sman

    50sman Lead commenter

    For the first 23 years of my career I taught without a lanyard
    I taught with a lanyard for the next 9
    I taught without one for the next four after that
    I taught with several for the last two

    I cannot recall any reference official or otherwise of my teaching ability being linked to my ability to wear a lanyard
  11. lrw22

    lrw22 Established commenter

    I hate them. I find them really uncomfortable. They give me the sensation that I am suffocating or being strangled.
  12. Doitforfree

    Doitforfree Star commenter

    They are another pointless modern affectation that people think makes the world safer. I would contend that if anything they probably do the opposite, but I doubt anyone had every day any real research.

    It reminds me of when our council decided that all childminders needed a hygiene certificate so they didn't poison the children in their care. When I asked how often this had actually happened, of course no one had ever researched it and no one knew if it had ever happened. But they believed that a pointless visit by a jobsworth to every childminder was going to stop this imaginary problem. It only lasted a year. The only comment I got from my one was that I should get a fridge thermometer which, given I had told the inspector that I had one, didn't give me much faith in his ability to inspect his own toenails never mind my hygiene.
  13. Flowersinspring

    Flowersinspring Lead commenter

    For those of us "blessed" with bosoms of the generous type, I find lanyards have a disconcerting habit of bouncing a little too freely as you walk. That, along with the keys that are attached, makes for a "fun" journey around a building. Lanyard and keys now relegated to pockets, desk, bag or anywhere else.
  14. Arc_en_ciel

    Arc_en_ciel New commenter

    We have to wear them at our place: blue for teaching staff, purple for visitors with DBS and red for visitors who don't have DBS and such, have to be escorted around the site. Even our 6th form have to wear them...lower school don't because their uniform identifies them.
    I don't particularly like wearing a lanyard, but can definitely see the practicalities of having them.
    It was picked up on our last OFSTED inspection that people were not clearly identified, especially their DBS status.
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  15. ajrowing

    ajrowing Established commenter

    Does anyone know whether children in schools are more likely to be harmed by someone who has had a DBS check or someone who has not?
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  16. Doitforfree

    Doitforfree Star commenter

    How hard would it be for someone to put on a uniform that 'identified' them as lower school?

    It all feels like a lot of a**e covering.
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  17. Arc_en_ciel

    Arc_en_ciel New commenter

    Yup, it is a**e covering, but that's just how it's gotta be!
  18. Mangleworzle

    Mangleworzle Star commenter

    Does Ofsted have an internal department for coming up with imaginary threats so they can tell schools off for not addressing them?

    It's all dressed in pompous, scary language with the word "safety" peppered throughout so any objection is an objection to being safe and indicative that the speaker is reckless with the lives of others.

    Yet it is all so mealy mouthed and just pretends that something of value or note is being achieved while giving jobs and importance to certain types of ineffectuals who shouldn't be in education in the first place. Quality control for cardboard boxes or Smartie roundness would be a better use of their abilities.
  19. Jamvic

    Jamvic Star commenter

    This is the reason for Lanyarditis. It’s like feedback in books in multicoloured pen and regulation green fencing around every square inch of the school grounds. An easy YES/NO way to inspect something & tick a box.

  20. Jamvic

    Jamvic Star commenter

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