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Land use UK

Discussion in 'Personal' started by Didactylos4, Nov 9, 2017.

  1. Didactylos4

    Didactylos4 Star commenter

    A while ago there was an argument about land use in a thread about immigration and "how much room we had left"

    This link (from the BBC) is full of the various data I was accessing from multiple sources to make my points but collated together in an easy to use and visualise manner
    Worth a look.
    Especially if you are interested in seeing data for discrete areas
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  2. Didactylos4

    Didactylos4 Star commenter

    This being factual and not 'amusing' I would expect it to disappear downwards and off the page like a lead balloon dropped off a high place :D
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  3. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter

    Interesting, thanks. My area is 'only' 8% built on (so 2% above national average), but feels crowded because of the size & number of roads in & out. (And lack of other services...)
  4. Lara mfl 05

    Lara mfl 05 Star commenter

    That was quite a shock to realise how much 'above national average' is my area, as I think of it as quite 'rural' Even the neighbouring village is in the same category.:(
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  5. slingshotsally

    slingshotsally Star commenter

    My area: Built 4%, Green Urban 2%, Farmland 83%, Natural 11%.

    Hate for foreigners runs strong here. Brexit vote almost 80%.

    There is a huge shortage of affordable housing, very high rents and little new building.

    Lots of low paid work, high unemployment. Lots of Portuguese, Lithuanian, Romanian poorly paid workers.

    The local hospital hasn't got enough specialist staff- 2 European doctors I know have already resigned and will be returning to their countries by Christmas.
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  6. FarSideofParadise

    FarSideofParadise Occasional commenter

    My area is 71% built on! Only 25% green urban. I do live in a big city but I live very close to many of the large parks so it doesn't really feel that chaotic or crowded.

    It's still a surprising figure though, 2% farmland and <1% natural :(
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  7. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    87% farmland here, with 5% built on.
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  8. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    17% in this area...
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  9. oldsomeman

    oldsomeman Star commenter

    Without consulting the documents my eyes tell me my part of London is on the change.
    We have parks being converted to flats, houses and council garages and small industrial units being knocked down and flats erected, we have multiple occupancy in many homes etc etc,High rise dwellings going up instead of houses.Shops opening up as mainly coffee/food shops. and little else....the council even wants to build on the market open area to meet targets .
    We have double white lines and parking zones being put in everywhere and road closures in a vain attempt to keep the mass of cars on main roads,,with all the subsequent delays and pollution.
    61% built on and 24 green urban which is small areas of parks and natural is the epping forest which many eye u as nice building land.
    Edit.No new roads are being built but have been narrowed for the little Amsterdam cycle lanes project.The result is slower traffic and therefore more feeling of congestion.Bicycles are stiil not usinf them nbut prefer to mix with the cars.Most other main road get double yellows and parking not allowed till certain times,usually late in afternoon so affecting the trade of local shops. so many small shops come and go relatively quickly in the area. The parking zones have the biggest effect as the council's drives to make folk walk,cycle or use local bus services( assuming you can do all of the three lol)
    Last edited: Nov 9, 2017
  10. InkyP

    InkyP Star commenter

    Built on 44% Green Urban 14% Farmland 40% Natural 2%

    I think the 2% is the bit outside my front door.
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  11. Orkrider2

    Orkrider2 Star commenter

    51% built, 22% farm, 22% green, 9% natural.

    Not bad for the outskirts of London (within the m25!)
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  12. woollani

    woollani Established commenter

    Why on earth do you stay in that hell-hole of a city Oldsomeone?
  13. Burndenpark

    Burndenpark Lead commenter

    • Built on9%
    • Green urban5%
    • Farmland82%
    • Natural4%

    So obviously it's all the foreigners' fault that we have too little housing and nothing at all to do with the pressure groups at every turn objecting to the building of new houses?
    Hence the support for Brexit locally.
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  14. Duke of York

    Duke of York Star commenter

    Perhaps the most outrageous number in this report is this:

    3: The local authority with the greatest proportion of land devoted to golf is Woking. How much?
    A: 11%

    Overall, British golf courses are calculated to cover 1,256 sq km, an area roughly equivalent to the whole of Greater Manchester and, according to some estimates, just a little smaller than all the land covered by housing.
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  15. Flere-Imsaho

    Flere-Imsaho Star commenter

    I was surprised to be under the national average for farmland but I suppose it makes sense. It's hard to farm on big hills.
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  16. Didactylos4

    Didactylos4 Star commenter

    Obviously not



    But given the data above and when you consider that the UK has not been self-supporting in food production since the VERY early 1900s then there is some legitimacy to causes for concern about future population levels.
    Not panic obviously, but certainly calm and reasoned consideration of where the line should be drawn and how
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  17. Duke of York

    Duke of York Star commenter

    I was surprised to learn that 31% of where I live is farmland. Goodness knows where the farms are. I can't remember seeing a tractor since we moved here.
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  18. Nanook_rubs_it

    Nanook_rubs_it Star commenter

    You may well enjoy this podcast then:


    In the middle of Los Angeles — a city with some of the most expensive real estate in the world — there are a half a dozen exclusive golf courses, massive expanses dedicated to the pleasure of a privileged few. How do private country clubs afford the property tax on 300 acres of prime Beverly Hills real estate? RH brings in tax assessors, economists, and philosophers to probe the question of the weird obsession among the wealthy with the game of golf.

    It would be interesting how Surrey work out the council rates on those courses as well.
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  19. Didactylos4

    Didactylos4 Star commenter

    We just need to breed cows, pigs and sheep with legs shorter on one side than the other :D
  20. nomad

    nomad Star commenter

    • Built on 6%
    • Green urban 2%
    • Farmland 88%
    • Natural 4%
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