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Lack of supply work

Discussion in 'Supply teaching' started by emma-jane123, Feb 26, 2012.

  1. Hello
    I was just wondering what the general feel for supply was. I qualified in 2010 and am still doing supply as Im finding it really hard to get a full time post. I dont get much supply at all. I have joined an agency but yet the spply work is still pretty grim. However my friend who doesnt work for an agency has managed to get lots of supply and is working everyday of the school week. Am I doing something wron? Is there a secret trick to it all that I am unaware of?
    Please help me as I'm getting really down about it all.
    Thanks

     
  2. Hello
    I was just wondering what the general feel for supply was. I qualified in 2010 and am still doing supply as Im finding it really hard to get a full time post. I dont get much supply at all. I have joined an agency but yet the spply work is still pretty grim. However my friend who doesnt work for an agency has managed to get lots of supply and is working everyday of the school week. Am I doing something wron? Is there a secret trick to it all that I am unaware of?
    Please help me as I'm getting really down about it all.
    Thanks

     
  3. Georgia99

    Georgia99 New commenter

    There isn't much supply at all for most people. I am working a maternity contract directly with a school which is only part time. I am on the schools list for supply work on my days off and I am top of the list because I am obviously cheaper than them using an agency. In four months I have been offered cover work on just three occasions and none of them were for a full day, they were for 1 or 2 hours. They tend to have enough cover supervisors in the schools to meet their cover needs it seems.
    Sometimes a supply teacher may make a good impression on the school and that school will specifically ask for them or they will have made a good relationship with the agency staff who ring them first.
    Before I got my current temp post, I phoned all the local agencies in my area and only 1 wanted to take me onto their books. The remainder simply said they would not be able to get me any work as they had so many teachers on their books already.
     
  4. Nothing stopping anyone from writing a supporting letter plus CV to the Head Teacher???!!!.......................................................but there again it might be thrown in the nearest bin or filed????
     
  5. So Im not alone. I have sent countless amounts of cvs and letters to school. Ive been into schools with special cards with my contact details on etc etc but still no luck. I always leave the school on good terms and give 110% when im there. So god knows!!!
    Thanks
     
  6. I have been doing primary supply in London for just over a year now. First of all I h ad a brilliant consultant who had me out every day. She has now left and not sure if it's a combination of new person not being as great and economic down times, but work has definately dried up. Am lucky if I get 3 days a week, it's often only 1-2. I'm constantly on call and getting fed up of being up and ready by 7-7.30 only to not get called. I can't make any plans to do other things as it's all so last minute.
    I have worked hard to make a good relationship with agency. I am always polite and nice to to office staff in the school as well as any teachers I come across. I make sure I tell all of them I had a lovely day and would be more than happy to come back, and compliment the teacher (if around) on having a nice classroom! I often get repeat work but this also seems to be drying up. I'm getting quite frustrated as I think I do a really good job, make sure the kids have a good day, always leave a note if the teacher isn't there to be given feedback to, and always do the marking (as this annoyed me as a class teacher!)...I quite often leave as late as the other teachers if there is a lot to mark!
    I have been told to join more than 1 agency which is probably a good idea, but limit it to 2-4 and build a good relationship with those.
    My agency have just sent an email saying "if we're ready at 7, call in so we know and can put you at the top of the availability list". Wish they had told me this months ago but also feeling a bit annoyed as this means I have to be up even earlier to make sure am ready to go if and when they do call!
     
  7. Im exactly the same as you do everything we should be doing and try to go that extra mile to stand out but the work through the agency is out of our control. Im fed up of sitting at home like yourself waiting for the phonecall and never getting one. Or sitting at home knowing full well I can be out working!
    At the moment im trying to apply for jobs but failing misserable. Suppose the answer to it all is to keep plodding on!
    Hope everyone who is on supply is doing well. Dont get me wrong as an NQT I have learnt so much on supply, if i got more it would be fab.
     
  8. I have just received an email from an agency whose name starts with the name of a South African coin and they are looking for Teachers, teaching assistants and Nursery nurses because they are EXTREMELY BUSY and if I recommend someone and they work for ten days I will get £50.
    Firstly I last worked for them four years ago and they have not sent me any work aprt from having to drag myself onto a train to Sheffield. The last consultant I worked for now works for another company and basically said it was my fault that I could get no work and that I was unreliable. Unortunately my references disagree.
    My question is what supply teacher, if recommended is going to be able to work for ten days?
    Also can I apologise for sending posts from an alternative universe because where I am sending this from I have not worked since July!
    More agency phishing!
     
  9. Interesting... they used to offer around £150 and didn't stipulate 10 days either. Around here (NW) they will only sign up M1s and NQTs and claim to be very busy (doing what I can't imagine....)
     
  10. You are not alone. I too qualified in 2010 and am still doing supply -- when I can get any. And as for "finding it really hard to get a full time post".... I have applied for around 60 jobs and been shortlisted 3 times.
    I started supply teaching in January 2011, so I'm coming close to the 16-month limit now -- another worry, unless it has officially been changed to 5 years, and nobody seems to know for sure -- and I have signed up with a total of SIX agencies, because I wasn't getting enough work from just one.... or two..... The first one gave me a few weeks' work, but they and I have parted company. The second has sent me all over the place, including nursery nurse and TA jobs, schools that take over an hour to drive to..... I get a fair bit of work from them because they know I am reliable and will do anything. The third gave me a few really nice jobs, but the work from them has completely dried up. All they ever give me now is annoying bureaucratic phone calls or emails. The fourth sent me somewhere for the odd day or half day, but I've had next to nothing from them; by sheer bad luck they seem to always ring just after I've accepted work for someone else. The fifth gave me half a day or something, then tried to poach me from one of the other agencies to work at a school where I'd already taught several times for other agency. As for the sixth, I joined them in desperation because I was getting nothing elsewhere, but now things have picked up a little so I haven't been able to work for them. I asked a head teacher why I hadn't been shortlisted for a job recently and got the answer that I had "ticked all the boxes" but other applicants had much more long-term experience while mine was just short-term supply work. So, yes it is frustrating, depressing, and I'm not surprised you are getting fed up. So am I. Good luck -- keep trying and I'm sure you will achieve a happy ending. But I would advise trying a second agency.
     
  11. Oh my days I feel for you where both in the same boat which is such a shame. However you have been shortlisted for a lot more jobs than me. Ive applied for about 70 odd jobs and been shortlisted for one!!! :(.
    I had joined two agencies. I have parted way with one as they where awful to be quite frank. The one im with now I get a few days but I have some months where I get nothing.
    Like yourself I asked a headteacher why he thought I wasnt getting shortlisted and he said exactly the same thing to me. I have tried my hardest to gain so much more experience. I worked in a nursery/after school club and summer school, done playschemes, volunteer work in my local school and still not got anywhere.
    Im not sure bout the 16 month thing, I've been doing supply since October 2010 and I'm still going my agency have told me there is no limit on supply apparently but im not sure on that one either.
    I really do feel for you and undertsand where you are coming from. What on earth can we do to get a job ill never know
    All everyone keeps telling me is keep your chin up, keep trying and your time will come soon. Lets hope its around the corner as the whole job process is very disheartening! :(
    Good Luck x
     
  12. Positive news - hadn't had a single day since October! - but I signed with a new agency last week and have already 4 days this week! In my specialist subject!
    I know it seems like I am happy for little reason - 4 days work though is a big deal for me - getting pretty desperate money wise.
    The agency have told me they are really busy in most subjects and long term assignments are quite common - why didn't I know this earlier?!!!!
    So yes, as another post mentioned, keep plugging away - believe me, I have done lots of other things over the last 4 years - just to keep my head above water - but I just keep returning to teaching - kind of don't know what else to do anyway!
    So - heres to going up - not down!
    Try and keep positive!





     
  13. I'm now with four agencies (just joined another today after a recommendation from a friend) and have had at least two days work each week since Christmas. Most of my work comes from one agency but the other is getting me bits and pieces here and there, and they are both putting me forward for long-term posts, which is good, as I'm expensive so at least they are thinking about it.
    Already been told that the use of cover supervisors is slowly killing off supply teaching, and that's from two agencies. Their livelihoods are on the line as well, to a certain extent.
     

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