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Lack of sleep - Year 2 Primary children

Discussion in 'Primary' started by GentlemanJim, Dec 15, 2011.

  1. GentlemanJim

    GentlemanJim New commenter

    Hello, I'm training to be a teaching assistant. In
    my class there are boys who go to 'Arabic classes' at a Mosque, all
    very well apart from the fact that when questioned they know very
    little Arabic and hardly anything about their own religion (I'm
    married to a Muslim). One problem is that they are too tired to work
    effectively when in school - one actually fell asleep at his desk,
    not dozing, asleep. The other is that they are overweight, no doubt
    due to eating late and eating the wrong food.

    Many parents from all cultures push their children
    in to too many activities after school, many of whom end up with no
    rest and an over-compensation of calories. We all have parents who
    love to boast about their son/daughter going to the mosque every
    night/pilates after school/swimming at dawn/gymnastics all weekend
    etc, no doubt putting the child off for life and leaving them too
    tired for education.

    I'm confident that I can deal with the issues here,
    with knowledge and tact, however my question is- is this any business
    of mine?
  2. Cervinia

    Cervinia Occasional commenter

    Are they all siblings? Why refer to 'them' as a single entity?
  3. Cervinia

    Cervinia Occasional commenter

    How would you go about dealing with these issues?
  4. Have you discussed the issue with the class teacher? It should be the teacher's responsibility to speak to the parents of any child who is falling asleep in class, etc.
    What the boys do or don't actually learn at mosque is none of your business, unfortunately
  5. minnieminx

    minnieminx New commenter

    The only issue you, as a TA has is to ensure the classteacher knows if a child falls asleep during learning time, and I would like to think s/he already notices. You don't need tack or knowledge to manage that.

    Other than that it really isn't any of your business what children do outside of school time, so long as the activities are safe and legal.
    Or of course enabling them to become Olympic champions! You seem to have a very poor view of out of school activities and the result on diet and weight.
  6. GentlemanJim

    GentlemanJim New commenter

    Hello, sorry for the tardy reply but I'm
    not connected often, at least not at this time of the year. I've
    raised the issue - children too tired for school - with the class
    teacher. However my course tells me that the role of teaching
    assistant includes raising issues with parents and was therefore
    seeking the wise counsel of experienced professionals, as well as
    talking teachers at my school. I'm not likely to be opening this can
    of worms unless the class teacher believes it would be helpful, but
    thinking about these issues in advance helps the inexperienced such
    as myself.

    I have every respect for out-of-school activities,
    my own children love gymnastics, Brownies, swimming, gardening club
    etc but it is my choice that they are in bed no later than eight.
    Some cultural eating habits, be it Red Bull and crisps after swimming
    or huge plates of rice late at night, are a bad idea. One should keep
    an eye on the health of pupils, it is something schools are there

    Many thanks for your comments.
  7. minnieminx

    minnieminx New commenter

    Hmmm don't believe everything your course tells you!

    Raising issues like 'so and so has been a bit tricky today. Didn't really want to settle to work.' is fine. As is 'Oh so and so fell out with her friend at lunchtime, so might be a bit tearful tonight' is also fine.

    However things like 'a huge plate of rice late at night after mosque school is a bad idea and adding in the red bull means so and so is too tired for school' would not be acceptable at all and goes beyond the role of teacher or TA.
  8. greta444

    greta444 New commenter

    I agree. A colleague was going to talk to a parent about her child being a little overweight. The child has always been on the heavy side and would appear to be the way she is natrually, to me. The thing is, the parent is a great parent and is surely aware of the weight of her child. I wouldn't feel that it was my business to talk to the parent about the child's weight.
  9. InkyP

    InkyP Star commenter

    As a classteacher I would be very annoyed with a trainee teaching assistant who took it upon his/her self to deal with this justifying it on the grounds that they are married to a Muslim. Warning bells ringing here!
  10. Crikey! Our parents would have replied with a few choice words to that person! On the subject of the OP, pass it on to the teacher, end of. Go and open that discussion with your training provider but don't approach the parent/community first.

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