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Discussion in 'Religious Education' started by thegreenlantern, Nov 1, 2011.

  1. Is it just me or is anyone else finding it EXTREMLY DIFFICULT to get a job in RE at the moment. As an NQT, I am finding it so difficult to get that first job as an RE teacher for which I studied a PGCE.
    Any tips suggestions very much appreciated??
  2. durgamata

    durgamata Occasional commenter

    The only tip or suggestion I have is Don't Give Up. It is a very difficult time and it doesn't matter what stage of the game you are in, NQT, regular RE teacher, Head of Department - there are many others like you (and me) who are trying to get a position in school. You probably know that Mr Gove has undermined RE with the English Baccalaureate - so schools are tending to downsize RE rather than build it up more. But some jobs do come up so just be very strong in your applications and don't give up. Keep your enthusiasm strong, keep your spiritual life (if you practise one) strong and don't give up. The schools and the young people need good RE so there is every probability that you will be successful but don't expect it to be soon.

    Expectation is almost bound to be met with disappointment and that can undermine your enthusiasm. Try to treat the whole exercise and spiritual saddhana. That is certainly helping me. And if you can afford it go to one of Theo's workshops on application forms and interviews. They are excellent. Then when you do write an application it will be stronger and if you get called to interview you will be more confident and in command.
  3. I think you need to keep going, get someone to look at your letter/interview technique etc. Are you applying all over country? I think if you are confined to a certain geographical area then you are at a disadvantage.
  4. jaimexuk

    jaimexuk New commenter

    I know somebody who qualified with a PGCE in MFL, but is now actually teaching secondary RE - and I though that MFL teachers were in demand :/
  5. Thank you everyone so so much for your kind words of wisdom and inspiration, its so hard sometimes to keep applying when you are constantly getting rejected.
    durgamata can I ask where I can get more information on THEO's workshops, I think this may be helpful.
  6. grandelf

    grandelf New commenter

    pop your head into the 'jobseakers forum'

  7. durgamata

    durgamata Occasional commenter

    This is the content of the first thread on the unemployed teacher's forum -
    Posted by: TES Web Staff 06/10/2010 at 16:02
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    A team led by Professor John Howson, the TES resident expert on the Career Clinic, has recently been providing support for teachers unsure of the way their career is going, or who need specific help with a job application.

    The team has now widened its scope by welcoming on board TheoGriff, who for several years has been the resident expert on the JobSeekers and Independent Forums here on TES Connect.

    With wide experience in a range of educational institutions, state and independent, with pupils from age 4 to age 70+, Theo has been involved in appointing, inducting and developing staff colleagues for 20 years. And that's where his advice to you, alongside that of the other experts, can be invaluable.

    The TES Careers Advice Service has two strands.

    Firstly there's the Application Review Service. We don't write your application for you, nor do we give you a model to copy. But we do give suggestions to help you produce an application that is highly professional, and focuses on how you meet the school's needs.

    Hoping for a first job? Last summer's PGCE students have not yet all found jobs, and worse still, there are some unlucky souls from the previous year who are still job hunting. Competition is fierce.

    Looking to move up? At the level of promoted positions, schools are examining their budgets closely and not always replacing posts immediately. This means that those of you who are hoping to progress your career find fewer opportunities.

    All this adds up to a need to have your application reviewed by people who really know what's what in the education job market.

    See here for further details:
    Application Review Service

    For those of you who are looking for the way forward in your career, the One-to-One Career Counselling Sessions are invaluable as a practical assessment of your potential in the current job market.

    Our team is different from other companies offering career consultancy: we are all education experts, specialising in advising and supporting both teachers and school or college leaders. We have seen thousands and thousands of job applications, and know what makes them stand out, for good or for bad! We have done performance reviews and identified career paths for hundreds of colleagues.

    We know what we're talking about

    See here for further details:
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    We can't make a job appear where there isn't one, we can't guarantee that you will get a job, or even an interview. But we can help you in an overcrowded market to showcase your skills and experience, so that a school can see just how much they have to gain from appointing you, and provide suggestions to help you find the right career path.

    And don't forget that you can also have questions answered by John Howson in the Career Clinic, and by TheoGriff on the JobSeekers and Independent Forums.
  8. durgamata

    durgamata Occasional commenter

    only I forgot to add the paragraph codes so it came up as a block!!! Sorry.
  9. fantastic advice thano you so much Baileys
  10. durgamata

    durgamata Occasional commenter

    not to dishearten or discourage you but I just found this on 'unemployed teachers' forum -

    Posted by: cazabelle 21/10/2011 at 17:33
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    Just wondering if the government or TDA are willing to admit the exact number of unemployed teachers. And also to give some guidance about the ratio of applications per job, where I live - my friend explained that for a 1 day a week covering job they had over 85 applications, all from people really looking for full time jobs.

    Posted by: barneystinson 01/11/2011 at 10:32
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    That sounds about right.

    I've heard from friends that have received feedback from unsuccessful applications that over 100 people applied!

    Posted by: erimus 01/11/2011 at 11:34
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    Ive been for interviews that have had over 100 applicants and had 9 on interview!!!

    Posted by: historygrump 01/11/2011 at 13:24
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    According to the TDA and the CEO mentioned this figure in a presentation, he did, the figure is around 16,000 plus, but when I asked the CEO of the TDA about this figure in an email, the CEO admitted that this figure was those teachers who had worked in schools, but had left and now wanted to return. However the figures mentioned and researched by another unemployed teacher from the ONS, the figure is around 49,000 unemployed teachers, but the dept of education disputes this figure (how can you trust them, when they claim that NQT's working on supply or who are looking for a job are put in the in employment columns of successfully gaining a post!). These figures excluded the estimated 45-51,000 supply teachers and by the way according to the TDA and dept of education there is a teacher shortage and that is why they need to train over 30,000 new teachers this year alone.

    The figures from the GTC and the ONS are from 2010!

    Posted by: harry1978 01/11/2011 at 17:23
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    Probably near 150,000 including supply.

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