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Labour ahead in poll

Discussion in 'Personal' started by Flere-Imsaho, Mar 18, 2016.

  1. Flere-Imsaho

    Flere-Imsaho Star commenter

  2. bonkers 704

    bonkers 704 Lead commenter

    It's great news. After all the sneering, all the "unelectable" taunts, all the "Steptoe", all the Maoist/Trotskyist/Leninist/Stalinist (delete as appropriate) jibes, four things might be happening. First Corbyn is steadily, gradually gaining respect for his brilliant performances at PMQs and his response to Osborne's Budget which basically tore Osborne into strips. Secondly, the backbench hate-mob of Tories, with their infantile jeering and cat-calling, their unpleasant bullying is costing the Tories a great deal of respect and creating a sympathy vote for Corbyn. If Corbyn is so bad, then why do the Tories seem to be so scared of him they won't let him speak? Thirdly, Tory economic policies are hitting a lot of people very hard and none of those people are the Tories friends and voters. Their ideological determination to diminish the state is inevitably hitting hard the state's clients - the weakest, the most vulnerable. To see wounded war veterans being rewarded for their sacrifice with £30 a week extracted from their wallets to fund an increased threshold for those on £45000 a year sits uneasily with many voters. Finally, Tory divisions have opened up, are gaping and attacks on pro-Remain Tories in the mainstream press are now the norm. The Daily Mail didn't find a good thing to say about Osborne's Budget.
    Therefore one or two opinion polls are no more than glimmers in what had been unrelieved gloom, but dawn is not far away, I believe and hope.
     
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  3. aspensquiver_2

    aspensquiver_2 Senior commenter

    Do you vote Labour at all?:confused:
     
  4. CedricDaniels

    CedricDaniels Established commenter

    You have to be kidding me. Corbyn is dreadful at PMQs reading his pre-prepared scripts and always missing the open goal. Labour gains are surely due to Corbyn keeping a low profile and gaffing less.
     
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  5. bonkers 704

    bonkers 704 Lead commenter

    If that's what you see. I see Corbyn asking pertinent, focussed tough questions and Cameron flailing around blatantly not answering them Wednesday in, Wednesday out, hiding behind his hooligan lynch mob behind him.
     
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  6. bonkers 704

    bonkers 704 Lead commenter

    And now Iain Duncan Smith has resigned, apparently over his opposition to the Budget's welfare "reforms"!
     
  7. vannie

    vannie Star commenter

    They're falling apart. Good
     
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  8. CedricDaniels

    CedricDaniels Established commenter

    He lets Cameron off thehook every time. Jez is disadvantaged by being poorly educated and not very bright. Most of the front bech outshine him with the exception of yhe Hackneyabbot
     
  9. vannie

    vannie Star commenter

    Absolute tosh. 'Not very bright?' Really?
     
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  10. foxtail3

    foxtail3 Star commenter

    The whole lot of them have fallen apart. The Tories have snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, Labour should be making hay, but Corbyn isn't able and can't remember the last time there was anything at all from the Lib Dems, apart from that stuff about Nick Clegg, the Queen and Brexit.

    They're all going you know where on a handcart.
     
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  11. delnon

    delnon Lead commenter

    PMQ is a puerile pantomime, part of the Westminster Farce "There go my Trousers". The Tweedle-Diddle and Tweedle-Dumb parties operate a cosy cartel to retain their closed shop, archaic working practices, gross overmanning and blatant racketeering, What happens in the Commons is just the second part of Bread and Circuses.
    Whichever party is in power, they won't give a Tomlinson for teachers.
     
  12. CedricDaniels

    CedricDaniels Established commenter

    He clearly is not
    Clearly not and private education did not make up for it.
     
  13. bonkers 704

    bonkers 704 Lead commenter

    He didn't have a huge amount of private education - just Castle House School. At Adams' Grammar he was very bright but too busy founding and running the local Wrekin Young Socialists group to bother with the task of preparing to pass exams, though I'm sure the two Es he achieved back in the Sixties would be the equivalent of two As and a B now!
     
  14. bonkers 704

    bonkers 704 Lead commenter

    And Corbyn is extremely widely read - he knows loads about the Middle East situation and in foreign affairs generally has considerable expertise. Eton has turned Cameron and Osborne into far more polished performers, but you always wonder with these public school types how much is style and how much is substance. After all PPE is the classic generalists' degree, encouraging public speaking and debate but not necessarily intellectual rigour.
     
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  15. summlard

    summlard New commenter

    After all these reforms, the last thing we need is labour coming and changing it all again. Plus well have millions more children to fit into the schools from abroad.
     
  16. oldsomeman

    oldsomeman Star commenter

    He might have what you claim but he is an abysmal leader...its was the d first time i saw him show emotion In answering the Budget.....or was that mock angst ?
    He is more our bar barrister than a leader in waiting.......god help us if he gets in power.
     
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  17. delnon

    delnon Lead commenter

    I forget who said it :( but her comment was: "It's only after you've been married to [a public-school educated man] for a few years that you realise that in fact he's pretty dim."
     
  18. CedricDaniels

    CedricDaniels Established commenter

    Jane Chapman?
     
  19. delnon

    delnon Lead commenter

    No, as far as I remember it was an American lass who'd unwisely married some chinless toff. Wish I'd kept the cutting. :oops:
     
  20. lexus300

    lexus300 Star commenter

    JC., is a much better performer at PMQ's because he does not play to the gallery. He may have non conformist traits but he speaks with sincerity. DC., is little more than a jumped up rich boy who has no empathy with the ordinary people.
     

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