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ks2 maths

Discussion in 'Primary' started by coffee-breff, Mar 28, 2016.

  1. coffee-breff

    coffee-breff New commenter

    A couple of questions
    Could someone point me in the direction of some practice national curriculum tests for year 6 please? I am a secondary teacher and wanted to see what the pupils will be tested on.
    How many levels are there?

  2. lindenlea

    lindenlea Star commenter

    Google is your friend.
    ilovepoppies and Lara mfl 05 like this.
  3. CarrieV

    CarrieV Lead commenter

  4. thehawk

    thehawk Occasional commenter

    The educated guess would be a pass mark in the low sixties out of 110.
  5. CarrieV

    CarrieV Lead commenter

    That would be great- but as all but one of mine scored more than that recently on the sample paper though ( and she has some SEN) I'm aiming for 70 or more!
  6. Milgod

    Milgod Established commenter

    Not sure where you're getting that number from.
  7. CarrieV

    CarrieV Lead commenter

    Wishful thinking:D
  8. hammie

    hammie Lead commenter

    better than looking at the tests would be to set some of your post GCSE exam teaching time aside to visit your feeder schools.
  9. coffee-breff

    coffee-breff New commenter

    Carrie. Thanks for your reply. I had found the site you had suggested, but had anticipated there would be more out there. It is a similar situation with the new GCSE.
    Hammie. I have already arranged my visits. The first one is during the first week back.

    Thanks for your help
  10. thehawk

    thehawk Occasional commenter

  11. CarrieV

    CarrieV Lead commenter

    t w i n k l have some papers which are pretty close to the sample papers, in terms of complexity and style ( although perhaps slightly easier!)
  12. Milgod

    Milgod Established commenter

  13. Milgod

    Milgod Established commenter

    For you maybe!

    I teach lower set Y6 maths. We had 2 children get 60+.

  14. Milgod

    Milgod Established commenter

    Good stuff. These type of visits need to occur far more regularly. I think a great number of Y7 children are put off maths (and other subjects) because of the repetition they come across when they move up.

    I've seen it with years of classes I've taught and now my own daughter as well. She is doing the same stuff she did in Y6 (and actually easier stuff than I'm doing this year).
  15. CarrieV

    CarrieV Lead commenter

    Oh goodness, don't say that. We all know primary schools don't teach maths-we just teach to the test-and so year 7's can't do anything when they walk through the door of their secondary school.
  16. Milgod

    Milgod Established commenter


    I love having the transition meetings with Y7 teachers at the end of the term.

    I tell them said child is a L6 mathematician. They say (in fairly polite terms) that I don't know what I'm talking about. Said child starts off Y7 and gets a grade within a week or two (quite amazing really how fast they get to know the children) which is fairly low. But wait! By the October half term the child is now a 6.8+

    Outstanding progress. Well done Y7 teacher.
    CarrieV likes this.
  17. coffee-breff

    coffee-breff New commenter

    Millgod & CarrieV – do I think a lot of year 6 tutors teach to a test? Probably. Do I think all year 11 teachers do the same? I know they do, I do it too. I do the same with my year 12s and year 13s.

    Do I think my year 7s have SATs levels that are higher than I think is valid? Quite a few. Do I think all of my year 12s with an A in their maths GCSE understand what they are doing and can perform simple algebra problems? No I don’t.

    Do I care about artificial levels of progress based on "unreliable" KS2 or artificial GCSE results? Personally, no I don’t.

    What I am trying to find out is what a student with a “pass” will look like. What they will have been taught and avoid repeating year 6 in year 7.

    From looking at the websites I have seen, the new KS2 tests are all a bit vague. We have a similar situation with the new GCSE. We have no idea of what the grade boundaries will be, and we even less information about the new A level.

    Thanks for all your help. It has been useful, and I will now know what topics to avoid when I have my meetings. :)

  18. Milgod

    Milgod Established commenter

    Not really sure that dealt with any of my points about Y7 repeating everything and thus turning children off learning, but I'm glad you got it off your chest.
  19. coffee-breff

    coffee-breff New commenter

    Yes I do think year 7 is a repetition of year 6. For some of the students who struggle with maths, this isn't a bad thing. For the rest, it's a disaster.

    Thanks again for your help.
  20. CarrieV

    CarrieV Lead commenter

    To know what year 6 have been taught, surely the best place to look is at the year 6 curriculum, rather than the year 6 tests. The tests are only a snapshot of parts of the curriculum, since we have no idea what will appear on the test we teach the curriculum and hope for the best!

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