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KS1 vs KS2 Directed Time

Discussion in 'Pay and conditions' started by JenLouBro, Mar 16, 2019.

  1. JenLouBro

    JenLouBro New commenter

    The KS1 staff at the primary school where I work receive 10 extra minutes of lunch break than those working in KS2. Obviously this adds up to a lot of extra free time over the terms! The headteacher says it is due to directed time? Does this happen in other schools? I have tried to search online for government guidance but not found anything useful so far. Thank you.
  2. becky70

    becky70 Occasional commenter

    It happens in my school. Unless the result is that KS2 staff are being directed for more than 1265 hours then I don't think there is anything you can do.
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  3. frustum

    frustum Star commenter

    I don't think there's anything to be gained in this sort of argument. You'll just get into "but we have more setting up to do" "but we have more marking" "but we have to spend more time talking to parents at hometime" "but..."
    If you're overloaded, raise that, but don't bicker about fairness. Nothing is ever completely fair. You can always ask whether it would be possible for you to move to KS1 at some point...
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  4. lardylegs

    lardylegs Occasional commenter

    We have the same, but the KS1 staff say they have to start work earlier in the mornings to set up.
  5. Piranha

    Piranha Star commenter

    What outcome would you like? If enough people make a fuss, they might find a way of making KS1 teachers work an extra 10 minutes each day, but would that really do you any good? I doubt if they will reduce your hours.
  6. modgepodge

    modgepodge Established commenter

    We have this...KS1 finish 15 mins earlier every day and also have an afternoon break, so adds up to 30 mins per day extra teaching in KS2 - that’s 2.5hrs per week! I think KS2 might get extra PPA however...even if we didn’t I wouldn’t move to ks1 anyway!!
  7. chubbyone

    chubbyone Occasional commenter

    Have a thought for teachers who work in the Nursery.... 30 hrs of directed teaching a week with the children as some full 30hrs, other either 15hrs morning or afternoon. On top of that the additional same as the ks1 and ks2 teachers whole school directed time of staff meetings, parents evenings (usually the longest as over 60 parents to talk to).
  8. Abitofeverything

    Abitofeverything Occasional commenter

    Ask to move to KS1 then! It's no picnic.
  9. welshmercury

    welshmercury New commenter

    In a school I worked at this was because the children had to have lunch in stages due to a small hall. So ks1 would go 12 and ks2 teach til 12:15

    This was changed so ks1 children had to come in earlier. It was a right faff as you would think you had them all but some would hide til ks2 whistle went outside.

    Check that your ppa allocation is correct. Other than that not much you can do. Some teachers will be working others chilling for extra 10 mins in staffroom.

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