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Just started out - HELPPPP

Discussion in 'Private tutors' started by bcq11xgu, Aug 17, 2012.

  1. Hi Everyone - I am new to this forum and to the business of Private Tutoring

    I am an primary KS1/KS2 NQT just qualified in July, and have been unable to secure a full time class teacher position in September which is a bummer. So now I have resulted to working in retail on the weekends and doing private tutoring on weekdays.

    I have decided to charge a summer discount rate of £10 per hour, I know its peanuts right..... but the area i live in I can't see anyone paying more than that per hour.

    This is my second week and I already have 10 children and 1 child is doing 2 hours a week, so business is booming. which is fantastic.

    However I am always so lost as to what to do with them. The first thing I do is look at the children's end of year school reports and see what the class teacher has recommended for next steps to progress. However some reports do not have next steps so I am lost on where to start. I have decided to only focus on the core subjects Maths, and English ( Reading, writing and spelling).

    What can I do with the children, how can I support children if I do not know what they are capable of already or not capable of? Any advice at all would be much appreciated.

  2. langteacher

    langteacher Occasional commenter

    What about some I can do type sheets so you can see where they need to improve?
  3. I too think the "I can" sheets would be a good way to go. It's a bit tricky as I do a lot of my assessment intuitively which is obviously much easier after you've been teaching a few years. I think about age related expectations and go prepared to do some games and activities which will show me whether they are at, below or above those levels. Open ended activities are good to show you what they can do. For example, getting them to write about themselves or, at this time of year, something they've done over the holidays, will reveal a lot. Other activities I do sometimes are: rolling dice and adding/subtracting them, building up to larger numbers; giving a target number and getting them to write down the calculations that would give that answer; showing a variety of shapes and doing different activities such as naming them, sorting them, making patterns. Depending on what I see they can do, I can vary the activity to take them onto the next level. Again, though, this is easier when you're more experienced. Perhaps try using APP materials or the I can sheets - there are loads of examples on TES - to help you plan some assessment activities and to help you set their next steps yourself. I don't know if that helps or even makes sense! Please ask questions if you want me to clarify anything.
  4. spiderwomen

    spiderwomen New commenter

    If you don't know what you are doing, then you shouldn't be charging people money. What kind of teacher exactly are you? Can't identify starting points through assessment, or plan progression in core curriculum subjects? This underpins all planning and is a QTS Standard requirement. All you've demonstrated is the quality of teachers being trained is sub-standard. I'm so glad I trained in a period where standards was much more rigid. People on the site are constantly worried about the amount of NQT's being trained every year, thus making the employment situation worse. I don't think it's that big a problem as out the thousands, there's only a handful of potentials. Ridiculous!
  5. niky257

    niky257 New commenter

    we all need a bit of help sometimes :)
  6. wow thanks for such a great response Spiderwomen !!!!!!! I am truely devasted by your response.

    Yes I am an NQT and have assessed children before, but I am human and cant be 100%perfect, hence why I was merely simply asking for advice. I have been providing the children with high quality tutoring however I wanted some advice on how I could assess the children.
  7. Thanks to the rest for your kind and encouraging words - they have been noted down and will definitely be taken on board for my next lessons.
  8. phatsals

    phatsals Senior commenter

    Please ignore the nasty viper, your training is very current and you are asking for a bit of help to get going. Try this website
    It has links to various very useful sites/resources. Start with the 4 operations in maths tailored to the year group, use primary resources etc and all the stuff you would for class teaching. Remember you can cherry pick what to teach. Look on Coxhoe for some assessment activities or Wirrel / Wigan for assessments.
    Start slowly, it will become clear what next steps you need to take. Ignore the viper.
    You aren't charging enough - start on £20 and move up. Remember, you are a professional.
  9. joey81

    joey81 New commenter

    I'm starting my PGCE in January and I hope I never come across a Spiderwoman working in any school I teach at. I would be devastated and sincerely hope she has no contact with NQTs or trainees in her position as her attitude and lack of knowledge of communication skills and manners is attrocious and would put good teachers off entering the profession.
    I'm sure you have 20 years experience under your belt lady but that gives you no right to talk to brand new teachers with little experience like they are pieces of dirt on your foot. You may have experience but that doesn't make you a good teacher and you know the reason they have changed how NQTs are taught and managed? It's because the method you were put through didn't work a lot of the time.
    If I were a pupil I would be glad that my teacher had the guts to admit she didn't know things and had the courage to ask advice off people equipped to give her that advice. I wuold be more worried if my teacher believed she knew everything and never asked advice because she didn't thinks he needed it.
    So get over your artificially inflated ego and allow people a chance to learn, gain experience, improve and become the great teachers they have a passion to be. Personally it sounds like you lost the passion for teaching a long time ago and just like the power trip. I hope I never meet you in my teaching career.
  10. phatsals

    phatsals Senior commenter

    Spiderwomen has not completed his/her NQT year. He/she is not in a position to criticise.
  11. joey81

    joey81 New commenter

    You have to be kidding me... that's ridiculous. I assumed she must have had at least several years of full teaching under her belt from the way she spoke. Well I hope prospective employers find her post online. I'm sure an apology wouldn't go amiss too for a certain lady.
  12. phatsals

    phatsals Senior commenter

    It won't be forthcoming unfortunately. I have rarely read such vituperative comments, the ones to people who are unemployed are even worse..
    The good news is he/she is unlikely to ever be employed in a primary school.
  13. langteacher

    langteacher Occasional commenter

    spiderwoman if you are not a teacher then what do you actually do?
  14. Thank you so much or the support guys
  15. Her grammar is not too great either.
  16. Hi bcg,

    First of all, don't panic and well done for gaining so many children - you are in demand! There has been some good advice on here so far (mostly). I'm also an NQT and I am in almost the same boat with no job as of yet. I have one potential tutee coming up which is why I stumbled across your thread.

    It's certainly good that you're focused on progress and assessment. I'd certainly feel very lost in this situation as well as you don't really know what they are covering at school. Whether you have seen their report or not, I would plan some 'starter' activities and assessments to highlight any misconceptions or sticky areas. I will probably focus on the basic skills such as the four operations to begin with. She/he can't be expected to be able to do long multiplication well if she doesn't know her times tables, for example. If I can gather enough evidence from my own assessments and progress reports I might be able to gauge what level she is working at as well. I will then do a medium term plan to ensure progress and cover each area she is not as confident with, in order to push her level higher.

    The 'I can statements' for each sub level are very useful, maybe have a look at those. I hope this helps.
  17. DustinFox

    DustinFox New commenter

    Arachnid = Troll IMHO ... but maybe just an honestly held opinion (with which I have no sympathy) that would have been far better kept off the forum.
    Well done for asking! Not however that I have much to add in the way of advice for KS1/KS2 as I am pretty much KS4/5 maths. However, I was asked by neighbours at short notice to help their son in Year 6 last year and despite me explaining that they should look for a primary specialist (although I did do a couple of years voluntarry work in primaries after retirement) I was persuaded to give it a shot; a thoroughly rewarding experience with a thoroughly good outcome having persuaded one 'too-cool-for-school' pupil that he was as good as anyone on the 'top table' and that he could get the results to prove it. I did use some revision books from a firm in Kirkby in Furness in Cumbria (I am probably banned form giving a name but I am sure that a Clever Google Procedure will find them). Probably hated by the primary specialists but gave me a good quick fix (as long as I varied the activities)
    Good luck and charge more than a £10 per hour; you have professional training. An hour might be too long for some. No wonder you have ten signed up in quick time.
  18. I stumbled across the 'what I can do in mathematics' booklets for each level. Here is an example (level 4 I think):

    Hopefully they work. There is one for each level which is nice (always prefer this rather than by year group). Seem similar to what has been suggested, and a nice way to see where the child is confident.

    What do you think? I think I'm going to make some child-friendly copies so my Y6 pupil can use a sticker or get it stamped when she 'gets it', and she can keep them to show her parents. Good as a basis for target setting as well.

    If they're lacking in confidence, self-assessment techniques will really help.

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