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Just how inaccurate are the adverts for teachers?

Discussion in 'Thinking of teaching' started by SEBREGIS, Jul 3, 2019.

  1. SEBREGIS

    SEBREGIS Lead commenter

    Could I get some impartial info here?

    I'm trying to persuade some folks that the government adverts for how much NQTs can earn are not accurate.

    I suspect I am not the only person here who has this view.

    Just so it's not simply me telling people this is not true - could anyone else throw in some info about just HOW far from the mark these damned adverts are?
     
  2. sabram86

    sabram86 Occasional commenter

    As always, it depends.

    In theory, classroom teachers can earn up to £65,000, but I have rarely, if ever, seen an advert for a teaching post on the pay-scale necessary. Almost all class/subject teachers are on the main pay scale or the upper pay scale, with a Teaching and Learning Responsibility (TLR) thrown in for good measure if, say, they are head of year or head of department.

    The pay scales can be found here: https://schoolsweek.co.uk/pay-scale...ers-in-england-and-wales-from-september-2018/

    It says quite a bit that the National Education Union does not publish the leading practitioner scale (the one where, in theory, you can earn £60k+) on its own website.

    On the other hand, I did have NQT friends who managed to negotiate M3 for their first post. I've not kept in touch with them, so I'm unsure whether they have carried on climbing the greasy pole.

    Good luck, whatever you decide.
     
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  3. yodaami2

    yodaami2 Lead commenter

    Putting pay aside. You never see a talented teacher on those ads dealing with the: disaffected, rude, aggressive, lazy, entitled, pompous, and lets face it, nasty individuals! And as for naughty kids!
     
  4. Easyasabc

    Easyasabc Occasional commenter

    Do not go into teaching if you want a good salary. Many get trapped on a salary for years at the top of their level - which isn't great. Remember the hourly rate of pay for a teacher is less than nursing and the police.

    No bonus pay, no Overtime pay.
     
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  5. Robfreeman

    Robfreeman Occasional commenter

    HAHAHAHAHAHA ACCURACY HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHA
     
  6. doteachershavesuperpowers

    doteachershavesuperpowers Occasional commenter

    It's the photos that are inaccurate as well. It shows the teacher with a handful of smiling, alert children.
     
  7. gainly

    gainly Senior commenter

    I wonder if these actually influence anyone. Most prospective teachers will have been at school relatively recently and, unless they were exceptionally lucky in the school they attended, they will know the reality is nothing like the photos.
     
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  8. Corvuscorax

    Corvuscorax Occasional commenter

    I'm sure these ads misrepresent teaching to such an extent that they are actually breaking the trade descriptions act.
     
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  9. Piscean1

    Piscean1 Senior commenter

    I wonder if anybody has actually complained to the advertising standards people about this.
     
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  10. blue451

    blue451 Established commenter

    And a teacher who has spakling eyes, good skin, and no bags under the eyes. No signs of stress at all.
     
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  11. harpplayer

    harpplayer New commenter

    I don't get to see TV ads these days, but those online ads, full of fresh faced newly qualified young things teaching classes of super well-behaved students so keen to learn in well-resourced classrooms found I suspect only in Private Schools, belies the reality in the UK state school sector, I think.
     
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  12. pepper5

    pepper5 Star commenter

    They should film the science rooms where there are piles of rubbish piled up the teacher's desk that is usually in front of the white board including 20 coffee cups that have mould growing on them and haven't been washed since September.

    The room will be in a state of chaos because the teacher is so stressed out with large class sizes and challenging behaviour that they don't have time to clean their room or take care of themselves properly so therefore end up off with stress and the room gets more untidy as a stream of supply teachers go through it.
     

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