I agree Baggy, I genuinely believe in standards and good education for all but it seems results cannot possibly be 'OUTSTANDING without selection. This means certain schools/Sixth Forms & Colleges will suffer as a result of social factors and not being 'selective'. At my college we as a staff are dedicated to achieving brilliant results for our students but we are not selective at all and proudly and very often successfully take students other colleges wouldn't for level 1, 2 & 3 programmes. Although that in theory can mean brilliant value added, there are a lot of students who leave because they would rather (for example) go full-time at Argos than complete their courses. This means success rates then become affected because retention can be variable. OFSTED don't like this! We genuinely try and retain and help all of our students achieve but students have their own mind and this can be difficult to change at times. As with all educational inititives and frameworks I am sure it will go full circle again and before you know it we will have a single school inspector popping in for a quick chat, a current bun, cup of tea and a look at our registers!