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Johnson seeking legal advice on suspending Parliament

Discussion in 'Personal' started by chelsea2, Aug 24, 2019.

  1. chelsea2

    chelsea2 Star commenter

    ...according to Observer - leaked government documents.

    For 5 weeks from 9th September.

    According to Radio 5 Live....
     
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  2. Corvuscorax

    Corvuscorax Senior commenter

  3. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    He should already know the position on that.

    It's almost as if they don't know what they're doing.
     
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  4. chelsea2

    chelsea2 Star commenter

    I wonder if this move could precipitate opponents to come together? To go for a vote of no confidence? To bring matters to a head?
     
  5. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Lead commenter

    it could but the outcome from that is far from clear.
     
  6. irs1054

    irs1054 Star commenter

    One can only hope. If they do then I also hope they realise the stakes and go for broke. We really have to stop this messing about. For the sake of our country and democracy Parliament must just revoke A50. Then pass some legislation to make it more difficult to call a referendum (such as a super-majority similar to the Fixed Term Act), oh and repeal the Fixed Term Act before calling an election.

    The election itself will probably be a cr*pshoot for a lot of MPs but they have brought it on themselves.

    If this seems extreme, it is, but it simply reflects the seriousness of the situation we now live in. The idea that what Johnson is doing has anything to do with the "will of the people" is now just a laughable nonsense. He must be stopped and Parliament must understand that, if they do not stop him, then they will cease to have any credibility at all. We will then have lost our democracy.
     
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  7. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Lead commenter

    There is nothing like a majority for that, as Jo Cherry's amendment showed 293-184. F***ing Labour she said when the vote was announced.
     
  8. Mrsmumbles

    Mrsmumbles Star commenter

    Almost! You're too nice! He doesn't. This is man whose best tailoring is below his belly button and who cannot master a comb. Our country’s life in his hands...
     
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  9. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Lead commenter

    It's remains in the HoC's hands, same as it was six months ago.
     
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  10. Nellyfuf2

    Nellyfuf2 Occasional commenter

    Didn't Charles the First suspend Parliament?
     
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  11. chelsea2

    chelsea2 Star commenter

    That ended well!
     
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  12. nizebaby

    nizebaby Star commenter

    Yes, well...
     
  13. dleaf12

    dleaf12 Lead commenter

    That was then, this is now. People can smell the cliff edge of no-deal. Also Corbyn is closer to getting the GE he wants, back then he was too scared of being clearly for remain, whereas now he would rather not be a remainer but would much more prefer to be in power, and is reluctantly coming round to the realisation that Remain is his route there.

    Revoke before an election is still unlikely, but only because MP's are scared to stand up to their electorate and say, in effect, "NO, you got that wrong. The best interests of the country are served by Revoking".

    A GE then LibDems as Kingmakers seems how it may go, or hard brexit is the other possibility if the opposition ego's don't get out of the way in time. Next Tuesday's meeting may be pivotal to that.
     
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  14. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Lead commenter

    I think that is why they will approve the May deal next time rather than voting for no deal again.
     
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  15. chelsea2

    chelsea2 Star commenter

    Radio 5 again..... a partial rebuttal, apparently, from Downing Street:
    "Not considering proroguing Parliament in September."

    (But what about after the summit in October?)......
     
  16. burajda

    burajda Star commenter

    Sends a great message out to the rest of the world. If the executive dont like the voting decisions of your democratically elected parliament, then suspend it. If its OK for Britain to suspend its parliament, then its fine for all those nations that still find democracy a bit troublesome.
     
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  17. irs1054

    irs1054 Star commenter

    Another way might be to say "Look we tried but it wasn't possible." Still no guarantee that the public in general would wear it but it is actually being honest. There has been too much element of passing blame in this debacle and Parliament needs to accept ownership of its actions.

    Anyway hopefully most reasonable people will see past the Express/Mail rhetoric and realise that this action by Johnson is a call to arms.

    There is simply no reasonable purpose to even ask for that advice.
     
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  18. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter

    I'm hoping that such a move would lead to a mass protest against the government, civil unrest and the overthrow of Johnson at al. 1649 again....
     
  19. nizebaby

    nizebaby Star commenter

    Funny you should say that, frank. I've been feeling the brick in my hands for ages now, though the thought of rioting has always appalled me.
     
  20. peakster

    peakster Star commenter

    The Tory press will love it - his opinion poll ratings will go up.

    As long as Corbyn stays - he can't lose.

    We're doomed (as someone once said)
     
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