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Job in Italy?

Discussion in 'Teaching abroad' started by mumiron, May 16, 2020.

  1. mumiron

    mumiron New commenter

    New head at this particular school in September and suddenly so many vacancies. Am worried the staff are jumping ship for a workplace-related reason. How can I find out? It is so risky to resign from a good job here for a total unknown, particularly at the moment. (I did read the thread advising against any job changes with covid around.) I have searched the internet / these forums extensively but no one seems to have experience of this school (part of a consortium in Tuscany.) Why go? Brexit and BoJo are very bad for my health!

    PS sorry, I posted in wrong section before
  2. tigi

    tigi Occasional commenter

    Personally, I wouldn't go near it for multiple reasons.

    1. New head (unless I knew them/new of them)
    2. Multiple vacancies
    3. Italy - great country but the schools are not generally very good.

    Sorry, probably you want me to say - yay go for it!
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  3. tigi

    tigi Occasional commenter

    But I suppose if you desperately want to get out of the uk and are fairly footloose it could be fun if nothing else!
  4. rouxx

    rouxx Lead commenter

    Are you sure you read that thread?

    Did you not notice the vast majority of people saying do not give up a secure job at this time unless you have to
    Added to that - it really doesn’t sound like a good bet new head - multiple vacancies.
  5. IndigoViolence

    IndigoViolence New commenter

    Wonder how many of those multiple vacancies are COVID related? We have had a few pull out at ours and cited
    it as a reason. Our HT is a little beside herself.
  6. englishtt06

    englishtt06 Occasional commenter

    Also - with some caveats - new head teachers aren't always a bad thing. I've started at a couple of schools where there's been a new broom and it's been great: lots of investment, lots of new ideas, lots of new opportunities, lots of obstructive, miserable dead wood leaving :)

    Lots of vacancies in a school can be a red flag and something to think about but it doesn't always follow that a new HT is bad.

    Though I agree that, in general, Italy is a great place for a holiday but not for being an international teacher.

    However, if you've got nothing to lose, have few commitments, have a stash to cover emergencies, then in terms of COVID-contracts etc. you could take the risk.
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  7. jubileebabe

    jubileebabe New commenter

    If by any chance the school is in Milan, you can message me and I can see if I can find out info about the school. I used to teach in an Italian public school, I'm currently taking a break but I have quite a few contacts in English speaking schools in Milan and I still live here.

    I think it is very risky to resign from a good job in the UK. It's difficult to find a good contract here and can also be difficult to adapt to life here, although working in what I assume would be an English speaking school you would at least have some people you can socialise with right from the start.

    I'm interested to read that a previous poster said school here are not generally very good. I agree with you, but how do you know? I wish I knew before I moved here!
  8. jubileebabe

    jubileebabe New commenter

    Sorry, I read your OP in a hurry and didn't see that you said the school is in Tuscany.

    All I can say about that is that Tuscany is one of the least affected regions north of Rome as far as Covid is concerned.
  9. englishtt06

    englishtt06 Occasional commenter

    Over the years, I've worked with a few teachers who either have taught in Italy previously or went there - and didn't stay for longer than 2-3 years. I have also read this forum for the last fifteen years, so you build a good picture of where's good (and where's not!) but it depends on what you want.

    Those that loved Italy were young, didn't save anything but had a great time, got their IB/MYP spurs or general international experience then moved on. Harder to make ends meet if you're a family and very difficult if only one of the parents working, particularly in the cities. The less well-paid/smaller schools/rural schools seem to advertise for the same posts annually. I understand that the Italians take bureaucracy/red tape to a whole new level: this stresses some out, but barely troubles others.

    If the OP is young, isn't overly bothered about saving, and not making a life-commitment to Italy, then it could certainly work for him/her.

    I love Italy. Same with Spain - I'd love to work there, too - but at this stage in my career, can't really afford to. I'm saving either Italy or Spain for a sunshine-towards-retirement final post where I need beer money only ;)
  10. mumiron

    mumiron New commenter

    Thank you all. There is a lot of wisdom here. I appreciate your thoughts which help.
  11. the hippo

    the hippo Lead commenter Community helper

    Italy? I love the food. Shame about the teachers' salaries.
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  12. bextol

    bextol New commenter

    But, surprisingly, Italy is a pretty sober nation "Each year, the people of Italy consume 0.2 litre of alcohol per capita, and this volume consists of 23% beer, 65.5% wine, 11.5% distilled spirits, 0% other alcohol."

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