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Job Hunting

Discussion in 'Computing and ICT' started by evilpixie, Jun 13, 2011.

  1. I'm a PGCE student in the Midlands and just after some advice.
    After 5 interview - 3 of which said we'd love to employee you but I'm still looking for a job.
    Apart from the TES website and paper and council/eTeach website where else should I be looking?

    Also any advice on what to do if I can't find a September start job?
  2. djphillips1408

    djphillips1408 New commenter

    Write a speculative letter with a cv to all the schools in the area rather than sitting and waiting. I did this about six years ago when I wanted to come back to Kent and interviews were offered. After all it's just a mail merge and a few stamps. Mind you bit late in the day now but you never know
  3. Thanks will give that a go.
    My last feedback said
    <font size="2" face="Arial">"there was nothing wrong with anything you did. The final choice came down to you and X. She had the experience for the courses we will be teaching, otherwise in every way you were equal. You interviewed perfectly as I would expect any NTU student. Your answers were concise and to the point (waffle free!) and you knew your stuff. If I could push myself to a criticism (and I'm struggling to find one here) you might come over as slightly inflexible on behaviour, I would not have an issue with this but some schools may prefer a more negotiated approach to classroom discipline. </font><font size="2" face="Arial">If another post were to come up I would be happy to see you at interview and it would have to be a remarkable candidate who would pip you to the post.</font>
    Please don't feel the problem was with you it was entirely the experience factor that won it."

  4. Might be someone who has been left in the lurch and didn't think it worth advertising a post for September.
  5. gavcradd

    gavcradd New commenter

  6. Thanks!
  7. madcat

    madcat Occasional commenter

    To reduce costs many schools - like my own - advertise in the local paper first, only using the TES etc if they need to.
    So probably worth looking in these for the areas you are considering.
  8. Might even be worth digging round schools own websites ...
  9. Guessing by the fact you posted in the ICT forum, you are probably ICT qualified?

    In line with my other posts, what I would suggest then is apply for a different subject and suggest that you'll do ICT on the side just as an afterthought. Then build it up on the timetable from that and sell it to them and show them how brilliant it really is.

    Just my two cents.
  10. colwynexile

    colwynexile Occasional commenter

    I see what you're saying, but isn't this as bad as a history teacher taking up an ICT post so they can teach history on the side. We all moan about non-specialists after all.
    My only tip is to think about casting your net further. I used to live in West Wales, but you literally have to wait for a teacher to die before a post comes up (I was looking at Primary Schools at the time). I ended up in Essex and have been here for 5 years now (however, it might have been the plan from the first Mrs Owen to get me out of the way for good, lol).
  11. I did look at Business Studies with ICT as that pairing comes up a lot actually but I trained for ICT as that's what I wanted to do! I had one interview that was for BS and ICT and got asked "how my BS have you taught?" and got a face when I said none!!!

    Colwyn I can't move just now as my lad is about to start his GCSEs and has already started coursework. Plus when we moved 6yrs ago he had a really bad time with bullying and I don't want to put him through that again.
    Annoyingly there are several jobs where I used to work!!
  12. Yes its ridiculous, when I read that I thought, who the [BEEP] wrote that? Then realised it was me and thought what the [BEEP] was I thinking? But am guessing I was being ironic here, it's just how most schools seem to be doing it right now as I've already mentioned in other posts, to save money they become a noddy and they then employ anyone then you can just teach a little bit of ICT on the side to fill the timetable.
  13. VERY annoyingly, you will find this. A LOT. I actually don't know how they can get away with this legally. If you were ICT qualified they generally don't let you teach Business Studies, yet it is probably actually easier than learn and teach than ICT. You know what, they should bring in a law to stop this. If you're being taken on as a new teacher and if you're not qualified in ICT and you have to teach ICT as a main subject at GCSE or above, that you MUST be ICT qualfiied. That would soon cut out the nonsense. It's downright discrimination.
  14. That's a bit daft really. I would guess that a lot, perhaps the majority, of people teaching ICT aren't ICT qualified. What does 'ICT qualified' mean anyway? Almost all new graduates are to an extent.
  15. If you applying as a new candidate for a post in a school, you should be ICT qualified (have come through a course where the content is at 50% or more ICT content, which would mean an actual full or joint ICT qualification). Makes perfect sense! If you're in a school already teaching thats different obviously, you're already in the job, I'm only referring to new candidates.
  16. As a head of dept I would always look favourably on someone who is teaching when and where they can, as that shows commitment. Sign up with the best paying supply agencies - good jobs often follow from supply work. Supply is a great way to start in the absence of a fixed job, and you get to develop skills from day one. You can also approach schools you like and ask them to take you on for cover - that pays more as they don't have to pay a slice to agencies - and it gets you into the schools you like.
    It's tough out there and I sympathise - too many well-qualified candidates and not enough good jobs. But be reslient, focused and persistent, and you will get there. But start teaching!
  17. But bear in mind the negative attitudes to supply that you find on these forums which are echoed in schools. There's been some on Opinion in the past few days.You will also find that most day to day supply and some longer term is now paid at cover supervisor rate, which can be almost as low as minimum wage
  18. Try and ignore these though... just go in and do your job and do it well. The correct people will recognize you're doing a job and the other moaners, well they're not important in the chain of events anyway.
  19. gavcradd

    gavcradd New commenter

    In reply to the comments above about Business Studies, not every school has the two inextricably linked - I'm HOD of ICT, we don't do any sort of Business Studies and anyone who takes a glance at our website will see that immediately. We do have a very successful ICT department though and we also teach Computing. Yet whenever a job is advertised, I'm inundated by Business graduates who go on and on about Business Studies. They don't do themselves any favours at all. I'm a Computing graduate and I'm always on the look out for that skill set rather than any sort of Business acumen.
    I suppose the moral of the story is to personalise your application for each job.
  20. Thanks everyone I appreciate it.

    I'm meeting two supply/cover/recruitment agencies this week as I don't want to do anything else now. I am also doing (I hope!) a trial with an online teaching firm (connected to AQA) who are starting up this summer. I figured it's all experience and keeps my hand in!


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