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Jeremy Corbyn is crucial to the fight against antisemitism

Discussion in 'Personal' started by afterdark, Feb 23, 2019.

  1. afterdark

    afterdark Lead commenter

    Well there seems to be a silence in this forum about this news article.
    Strange really given the amount of blather in these forums claiming antisemitism in the Labour Party.


    "we welcome the Labour party’s endorsement of freedom of expression on Israel and on the rights of Palestinians. Labour is correct to recognise that while prejudice against Jewish people is deplorable, criticism of Israel’s government and policies can and must be made."
    sodalime and monicabilongame like this.

    MAGAorMIGA Star commenter

    Get with programme, afterdark. Don't you realise he is a terrorist-sympathising, Jew-hating Russia-loving Communist? (except of course he isn't - but I'm sorry to say a huge number of pig ignorant ****** believe this lying rubbish and spread it like wildfire online).
  3. sparklesparkle

    sparklesparkle Established commenter


    MAGAorMIGA Star commenter

    OK sparkle, prove me wrong. Never mind who he's met/spoken to/shaken hands with. Just quote me one sentence IN CONTEXT written by or spoken by Corbyn, showing me him supporting terrorism or violence to bring about political change and I'll accept what you say.
    hplovegame48 likes this.

    MAGAorMIGA Star commenter

    On the other hand it's all too easy to find sentences galore by Conservative politicians (and, regrettably, New Labour ones) supporting violence and indeed glorying in it.
    hplovegame48 and monicabilongame like this.
  6. sparklesparkle

    sparklesparkle Established commenter




    "Addressing the European Parliament at a Holocaust remembrance ceremony in Brussels on Wednesday, the former president of the Central Council of Jews in Germany warned that anti-Semitism presented a grave threat to Europe's liberal postwar order.

    Knobloch was especially critical of the leader of the opposition in the United Kingdom, Jeremy Corbyn.

    "The Labour Party, under the leadership of Jeremy Corbyn, has become one of Europe's most flagrant problems in terms of institutionalized political anti-Semitism over the past few years," she said."
  7. sparklesparkle

    sparklesparkle Established commenter

    "Labour MP Ian Austin has become the ninth Labour MP to leave the party this week.

    The MP said he has become ashamed of the group under Jeremy Corbyn's leadership.
    Following on from this Mr Austin, whose Jewish adoptive father was forced to flee the Nazis as a child, commented on anti-Semitism directly and said: "It is terrible that a culture of extremism, anti-Semitism and intolerance is driving out good MPs and decent people who have committed their life to mainstream politics.

    "The hard truth is that the party is tougher on the people complaining about anti-Semitism than it is on the anti-Semites.

    "I think Jeremy Corbyn has completely changed what was a mainstream party into a completely different party with very different values."
    cassandramark2 and artboyusa like this.
  8. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    Not only hobnobbing with the anti-semites, but selling them weaponry and supporting them in their destruction of Yemen.

  9. sparklesparkle

    sparklesparkle Established commenter


    SN: The question is do you condemn what the IRA did?

    JC: Look I condemn what was done by the British Army as well as the other sides as well. What happened in Derry in 1972 was pretty devastating as well.

    SN: Do you distinguish between State forces like the British Army and the IRA?

    JC: Well in a sense the treatment of IRA prisoners which made them into virtual political prisoners suggested that the British government and the State saw some kind of almost equivalency. I mean my point is that the whole violence was terrible, was appalling, and came out of a process that had been allowed to fester in Northern Ireland for a very long time and surely we can move on a bit and look towards the achievements of the peace process in moving things forward.

    SN: But if you are a potential candidate for the Prime Minister of the UK Jeremy it is fair for me to push you one more time. Are you prepared to condemn what the IRA did?

    JC: What it is fair to push me on is how we take the peace process forward ...

    SN: Are you prepared to condemn what the IRA did?

    JC Can I answer the question in this way? We gained ceasefires, they were important and a huge step forward. Those ceasefires brought about the peace process, brought about the reconciliation process which we should all be pleased about. Can we take the thing forward rather than backward?

    SN: Are you refusing to condemn what the IRA did?

    JC: (RAILWAY NOISE) Sorry I couldn't hear that.

    SN: (more noise) Are you refusing to condemn what the IRA did?

    JC: I feel we will have to do this later you know. (NOISE STOPS)

    SN: Well let me just ask you this last question while it is quiet there. Are you refusing to condemn what the IRA did? (line goes dead)"
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  10. sparklesparkle

    sparklesparkle Established commenter



    When the Labour leader casts doubt on May’s response or Russia’s involvement, he does not do so as an objective commentator on geopolitics: he has a long record of opposing Nato and the West, and of supporting Russia – as does Milne. When Corbyn asks that Moscow be given a sample of the nerve agent “so that they can say categorically one way or the other”, he makes clear that the arbiters of who authorised the first use of chemical weapons on the streets of Britain are not scientists at Porton Down, nor the British intelligence services, nor the British Government – but the Kremlin, and a president with a track record of distortion, manipulation and retaliation against his enemies. Corbyn’s own opinion and background, rather than the cool-headed objective facts, set the scene for his position on Salisbury.

    What is depressing is that some of his enthusiastic supporters will take Corbyn’s equivocation on Russia and run with it.
  11. sparklesparkle

    sparklesparkle Established commenter



    On Sunday, Hodge said: “I called him an antisemitic racist in July and everything that has emerged since has confirmed my belief that I was right,”


    With his voice breaking he asked: "How can it be that we are struggling so badly to eradicate antisemitism from our own membership?"

    Mr Gardiner, who represents the London seat of Brent North, directly addressed the Jewish community saying: "On behalf of my party, I want to publicly apologise to the Jewish community that we have let them down.

  12. sparklesparkle

    sparklesparkle Established commenter

    Thank goodness not everybody does!

    Thank goodness Jezza has high-calibre, credible people on his side!


    The former Labour MP, who was expelled from the party, likened what he called a “black op” against Jeremy Corbyn to the work of Joseph Goebbels.

    He made the comments shortly after declaring his wish to rejoin the opposition.

    Speaking on Sky News, he said: “I think with the Blairites walking out the door, hurling slander at Corbyn and the Labour leadership, it’s really a black op that’s going on here.

    “This is pure Goebbelian propaganda: repeat a lie often enough and some people will believe it.”
  13. George_Randle

    George_Randle Established commenter


    Now I'm the king of the sinners,
    A British Zionist.
    I've been here years
    Now I have my fears
    There's something I have missed.

    It's about our sense of humour,
    And I really need to know -
    I try and try
    To find eye-ron-eye
    Borat or Bruno.

    Oh hizz-a-boo
    I wanna laugh like you-hoo-hoo
    I wanna talk like you
    Meet some friends like you
    To woo.

    You see it's true-hoo-hoo
    That a Zed like me hee-hee
    Can learn to be
    Eye-eye-eye-eye-ronic too!
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  14. sparklesparkle

    sparklesparkle Established commenter

    Edited to include source. Some are so touchy about Jezza that they even report quotes taken from the media.

  15. Aquamarina1234

    Aquamarina1234 Star commenter

    He needs to resign before he finishes the Laour party off forever.
  16. afterdark

    afterdark Lead commenter

    Zionist does not equal Jewish.
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  17. afterdark

    afterdark Lead commenter

    He needs to remain. He needs to remain strong.

    The endless smear campaign by the media shows how frightened you people are.
  18. sparklesparkle

    sparklesparkle Established commenter

    Barry Gardiner MP, Margaret Hodge MP, Luciana Berger MP, Ian Austin MP, Ruth Smeeth MP, Angela Smith MP and Tom Watson MP aren't "the media".

    Nor is Charlotte Knobloch. https://www.dw.com/en/german-jewish-leader-decries-anti-semitism-in-europe/a-47302442

    Nor is the House of Commons. https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201617/cmselect/cmhaff/136/13604.htm#_idTextAnchor007

    And rest assured no-one is scared of a feel-paying school alumnus who " achieved two E-grade A-Levels, the lowest-possible passing grade" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Corbyn, who failed to complete a polytechnic course in Trade Union Studies and has spent the last 40 years around student agit-prop instead of doing something useful. Absolutely no-one is scared of that.
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  19. sparklesparkle

    sparklesparkle Established commenter

    It seems that Jezza himself is confused on that score.


    Corbyn "mentions an impassioned speech made at a meeting in parliament about the history of Palestine that was “dutifully recorded by the thankfully silent Zionists who were in the audience” (audience members he presumably knew nothing about). So far so bad. But it gets worse. He goes on to say that these unnamed Zionists in the audience “clearly have two problems. One is they don’t want to study history, and secondly, having lived in this country for a very long time, probably all their lives, they don’t understand English irony either … So I think they needed two lessons, which we can perhaps help them with.”

    It is unclear what the irony in question is. But it is irrelevant. To generalise about any race or religion is discriminatory. And if there were ever a clear example of somebody conflating Zionist with Jews, this appears to be it."
  20. MAGAorMIGA

    MAGAorMIGA Star commenter

    Corbyn's own words?

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