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“It feels like the Visigoths at the gates of Rome” - the cull of A levels

Discussion in 'Personal' started by FrankWolley, Oct 18, 2016.

  1. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter

  2. slingshotsally

    slingshotsally Star commenter

    I'd argue that music and art have already been so under funded that they have died a death in most schools (not just schools which follow particular religious ideologies).
     
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  3. Calpurnia99

    Calpurnia99 Star commenter

    Rome was already dissolute by the time the Visigoths arrived. I'm liking the idea of the slaves opening the gates and wondering who they are represented by today :)
     
  4. lexus300

    lexus300 Star commenter

    We are/were all wage slaves represented by impotent unions and a defunct Labour Party, which gate would yours be?
     
  5. lexus300

    lexus300 Star commenter

    Just another cut, education is no longer important, money and false statistics rule. Learning is expensive therefore it must be eliminated (privatised).
     
    wordsworth likes this.
  6. CedricDaniels

    CedricDaniels Established commenter

    Wow. An exam and sylabus for 369 people in 2016.
     
  7. Shedman

    Shedman Star commenter

    Electronics is on the way out with both AQA and OCR dropping their A-level electronics courses - shame on them. From next September only EDUCAS, the Welsh board will offer it. These minority subjects are being dropped because of the cost of offering the course so it's cheaper to abandon the subjects and offer the mainstream, popular A-levels.
     
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  8. CedricDaniels

    CedricDaniels Established commenter

    Seems reasonable.
     
  9. racroesus

    racroesus Star commenter

    I think these odd subjects have their place as fillers. Maths, Physics, Biology (now thinks he should have done Chemistry) and Classical Civilisation as my youngest did. Had the opportunity arisen it would have been Maths, Physics, Latin and Classical Civilisation. Specialisation can wait until University.
     
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  10. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Personally I think Classical Civilisation is essential... a vital key element of understanding poorly understood aspects of our world.

    But I can see how in our modern Utilitarian world it is easily disposed of.

    Electronics? @Shedman ... wow...

    Because surely that subject is essential to the modern world... unless we are surrendering our ability to manufacture completely to the Chinese... oh we are? Oh well that's dumb.
     
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  11. cuteinpuce

    cuteinpuce Star commenter

    If Tony Robinson really think that abolishing one or two A Levels is like the sack of a city, he needs to get a sense of historical perspective.
     
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  12. Flere-Imsaho

    Flere-Imsaho Star commenter

    Are they not going due to a lack of uptake? For how many pupils is it worth creating a course and setting and marking an exam?
     
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  13. magic surf bus

    magic surf bus Star commenter

    I'd have given my right arm to study 'A' level Archaeology at school, although I wouldn't have been much good with a mattock afterwards.

    I was horrified to meet an Archaeology undergraduate recently who told me that excavation experience was optional on their course. My jaw was on the floor - not that she'd have been able to recognise it.
     
  14. burajda

    burajda Star commenter

    Yet its very popular for vocational students at level 2 and 3. So not on the way out at all.
     
  15. silkywave

    silkywave Lead commenter

    They were trying to drop Food Tech at A level. They were having a battle as most food teachers took this when they were at school and couldn't understand why?
     
  16. burajda

    burajda Star commenter

    Are you surprised? The Labour Party set off the process of arbitrary percentage targets for shovelling more and people into worthless or economically useless degrees and then charging them ever increasing fees for an ever shrinking asset because it was good for votes, reduced unemployment and looked good for Mr Blair and his Party. It was never intended to be good for the economy, universities or archaeologists. How many more archaeologists are universities turning out than the country really needs?
     
  17. CedricDaniels

    CedricDaniels Established commenter

    If more people studied it at A level more archaeologists could be employed teaching it.
     
  18. Flere-Imsaho

    Flere-Imsaho Star commenter

    You could say that of many academic degrees. How many English or History graduates are really needed by the country?
    I am fed up of people's worth being measured only in economic value to the UK. The Brexit and post-Brexit debate has been riddled with this attitude. Painting education as nothing more than a tool to ensure employers get the workers they need to make the country productive devalues it.
     
  19. burajda

    burajda Star commenter

    So Blair was right was he to expand university student numbers at the expense of vocational education?
    There is a place for academic degrees but I'm afraid saddling young people from ordinary backgrounds with massive levels of debt devalues people as well as the economy.

    Giving every young person a 9 grand loan and telling them to 'find themselves' for a year would be more worthwhile than many degrees.
     
  20. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter


    Can't accept the idea that only people who don't come from 'ordinary backgrounds' can study non-vocational subjects.

    Much too elitist for this chap from an 'ordinary' background.
     
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