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Is Trump wrong to withdraw funds?

Discussion in 'Personal' started by install, Apr 15, 2020.

  1. install

    install Star commenter

    Is Trump making a huge error here or is right?


    Factbox: Reaction to Trump withdrawing WHO funding - Reuters

    Whilst I agree, the WHO could have done more imho. Every country is nevertheless accountable for the well being of its occupants and as such shouldn’t each country be measured by its appropriate reactions to a crisis ?


    ‘ U.S. President Donald Trump has instructed his administration to temporarily halt funding to the World Health Organization (WHO) over its handling of the coronavirus pandemic.

    Trump said the WHO had "failed in its basic duty and it must be held accountable". He said it promoted China's "disinformation" about the virus that likely led to a wider outbreak.

    The United States is the biggest overall donor to the Geneva-based WHO, contributing more than $400 million in 2019, roughly 15% of its budget’
     
  2. Yoda-

    Yoda- Lead commenter

    It seems poor timing to me at best. Whether they are culpable in some way or not.

    The USA is not going to take over a coordinating role internationally but here they are putting an impediment in the way of what the WHO does.

    Test , Test and Test they said. We didn't and the Americans had to pay themselves for one (so lots didn't). Yes mistakes were made, lots of them by virtually everyone....
     
  3. WB

    WB Lead commenter

    I read the first 3 words of the thread title and said yes.

    Seemed like a reasonable assumption.
     
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  4. install

    install Star commenter

    I agree @Yoda

    Errors have been made all round. Advice ignored on many levels too. I wonder if it’s a money saving exercise at least until the economy sorts itself out.
     
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  5. WB

    WB Lead commenter

    To give a more complete answer...

    I don't think the WHO have been great from what I've read but now isn't the time. Also, following on from yesteday's events it might look as though he's being childish (again).
     
  6. install

    install Star commenter

    Thank you @WB

    Do you think other countries should do the same then and don’t you think we need the WHO ?
     
  7. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    I doubt it. $100 million USD is small change in the context of the American economy. More likely that Trump is preparing to blame the WHO for the USA not acting sooner.
     
  8. mothorchid

    mothorchid Star commenter

    Yes. Right now? Did you imagine this was a good time? Whatever the rights (if any) or wrongs, now is not the time.
     
  9. install

    install Star commenter

    Yes agree @WD

    The timing is off. I am sure there are plenty of more potential pandemics out there too that we all want to be aware of.
     
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  10. baitranger

    baitranger Senior commenter

    I think that as Kant probably would have put it, Trump did the right thing for the wrong reason. The US response to Covid 19 has been chaotic, late and very damaging. Trump must take some personal responsibility for that. The WHO advice was initially not to close borders-and there is some evidence of Chinese influence on the WHO, but why has Trump waited until this later stage to withdraw US funding? Is it because he personally is under attack and is being blamed for the disaster of the late US response to Covid 19? If so, his action has no moral value.
     
  11. blazer

    blazer Star commenter

    Trumpy needs the money to pay the extra costs of having his name printed onto all the subsistence cheques going out to the folks made unemployed by the crisis.
     
  12. install

    install Star commenter

    Thank you @florian gassmann

    Surely that’s money for lots more PPE . I agree it seems like a scapegoating exercise, possibly to ensure Trump’s re-election.
     
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  13. install

    install Star commenter

    Yes it’s poor timing @mothorchid . I agree.
     
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  14. install

    install Star commenter

    Indeed. That money can be used for something @blazer

    I hope other countries don’t follow suit.
     
  15. install

    install Star commenter

    Good point. Kant might also have said this @baitranger :

    ‘Morality is not the doctrine of how we may make ourselves happy, but how we may make ourselves worthy of happiness.’

    Immanuel Kant
     
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  16. abwdSTEM

    abwdSTEM Occasional commenter

    Has the WHO done a good job in dealing with this pandemic so far? That is a question that can be debated later.

    But Trump is an idiot so the first (and safest) response to anything he says will be to treat it as wrong.
     
  17. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    Of course he's wrong.

    He's slowly descending into a petulant, narcissistic madness
     
  18. WB

    WB Lead commenter

    To move towards petulant narcissistic madness he'd have to ascend.
     
  19. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    Good point. Well made. I defer to you.
     
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  20. BelleDuJour

    BelleDuJour Star commenter

    I cannot see how this helps anyone at all.
    Apart from Trump...................he will imagine there's something in it for him.
     
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