Having got married in 1970 and then gone to teacher training college at a time when almost everybody had a grant and when a good semi-detached cost us £3,400 ....... sigh........... I choke at what some folk think is poverty these days (someone mentioned huge TVs and leather sofas) When we moved into our house having put down a £1,000 deposit (hubby's inheritance from a family member) we had bare floorboards for many months, no phone, a black and white second hand telly with a picture that contstantly (literally) waved around, a second hand fridge and no freezer or washing machine. We also had no car so I had to walk to get supermaket shopping and carry it back (not on a bus route) and had to walk with the dirty washing to the launderette. Holidays never happened. We survived and saved up to buy things. I suppose we've managed through a couple of recessions and our children have gone through university and we've worried ourselves silly about lack of jobs and opportunities for them especially now. We were actually the lucky ones. Jobs were easy to come by and houses were cheap. We may have lived on bare floor boards because we couldn't afford carpets but that was the norm then. People struggled and moved on. Expectations are very different today especially for those who have no intention of working (the feckless) because their benefits provide all the luxuries we waited years for. Getting off high horse and not in any way referring to anyone posting on here.