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Is the 10pm curfew working in your area?

Discussion in 'Personal' started by littlejackhorner, Sep 28, 2020.

  1. littlejackhorner

    littlejackhorner Senior commenter

    I have just seen a report on the news that showed Liverpool City centre just after 10pm closing. It was so packed with young adults social distancing must have been very difficult to maintain.
    In contrast on Saturday I took my dog out for a walk just after 10pm and it was like walking through a ghost town. So maybe it's working in small towns but needs thinking about in city centres.
    I'm aware this 10pm curfew is just tinkering but I can see some sense in that the longer bars are open, generally the drunkenness and forgetfulness about social distancing increases.
    So what's it like in your area? Does it seem to be working or do you think restrictions need to go further or relaxed?
     
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  2. Rott Weiler

    Rott Weiler Star commenter Forum guide

    News reporters seem to like saying, wholly incorrectly, that there's a 10pm "curfew". There isn't. A curfew in every dictionary I've ever seen is defined as a time when people have to be inside their home and can't be out on the streets. There's no 10pm curfew, it's just when pubs have to shut. You can stay all night if you want to.

    Haven't a clue what it's like in my area, I haven't been out of the house that late for months.
     
  3. mothorchid

    mothorchid Star commenter

    10pm is past my bedtime.
    However, the drunken couple of lads we hear going home once or twice a week went home earlier this weekend, so it was working as far as I know.
    But @Rott Weiler is right. It's not a curfew. if you want to sit out drinking cheap tinnies in the market place until three in the morning, you can. Just with no more than five friends, assuming someone who sits out drinking in the market place at 3.00 am has got that many friends.
     
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  4. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    Very quiet in this village. I can imagine town centres could be very different.
     
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  5. hhhh

    hhhh Star commenter

    That's been illegal for decades in most places round here-it surprises me most places aren't the same! Do you really not have any of those notices around lamp posts telling you that you can't drink outside? Maybe it's just my council-they seem to love those, and the anti-dog ones. Few lamp posts are unmarked (by the signs, not the dogs).

    Publicans are saying it's worse, as people try to drink more aggressively earlier. One man shut his pub, saying people just aren't being sensible. I wasn't there, but those who were seem to think it's far less risky than schools.
     
  6. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Star commenter

    A lot less risky according to PHE stats
     
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  7. mothorchid

    mothorchid Star commenter

    We do have those @hhhh but I have never seen them being enforced here. Mind you, I wasn't speaking about my small home town when I referred to people staying out till three o'clock. We don't do that sort of thing round here! I was thinking more of city centres, such as where we used to live.
    Our nearest night club is over 25 miles away, and I don't mind that one tiny bit.
     
  8. colpee

    colpee Star commenter

    You can also leave the pub at 10pm and join the throngs of people in the supermarkets buying tinnies for the evening:confused:
     
  9. red_observer

    red_observer Star commenter

    I don’t frequent city centres so don’t know around here except I know of some people who were having people around after 10pm in Saturday ....
     
  10. sodalime

    sodalime Star commenter

    And of course the counter-action is now that there's government talk/pressure on government to stop alcohol sales (super markets and other licenced outlets) after 9pm.
    Every action has an unintended consequence that then needs to be dealt with. And that leads to another action that has an uninten . . . . . blah blah. On it goes. Tinkering round the edges.
     
  11. Rott Weiler

    Rott Weiler Star commenter Forum guide

    Are you in a local lockdown area where it's prohibited to have people from other households in your house? If not they're allowed to have people round to their house after 10pm, or any other time, as long as the maximum number of people is 6.
     
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  12. colacao17

    colacao17 Lead commenter

  13. Rott Weiler

    Rott Weiler Star commenter Forum guide

    According to Radio 4 news a moment ago the government has rejected the request
     
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  14. Jamvic

    Jamvic Star commenter


    Alcohol will not be served after 10pm in parliament in an apparent U-turn, after it emerged that Commons bars would be exempt from strict early closing rules imposed across the country.

    Facilities serving alcohol on the parliamentary estate would not have to abide by the earlier closing time because they fell under the description of “a workplace canteen”, the Times reported on Monday.

    But after the development was immediately condemned by some MPs, the Commons was forced clarify that alcohol would not be served after 10pm.

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....rve-alcohol-after-10pm-commons-confirms-covid
     
  15. Rott Weiler

    Rott Weiler Star commenter Forum guide

    Much as I would love to mock the government for yet another U-turn that's not really what's happened. The 10pm pub/restaurant closure regualtions never mentioned parliament and never specifically exempted them because they never applied to them in the first place so there was nothing to 'U-turn' from

    The House of Commons restaurants and bars were never in scope because they aren't 'hospitality venues' and aren't open to the public. They are the same 'works canteens', legally, albeit rather posh ones, which aren't subject to 10pm closure.

    They're not run by the government nor was it the government that decided to close them at 10pm. It was MPs themselves who made the decision, showing themselves more sensitive to public opinion and more fleet-footed than the government would ever have managed.
     
  16. nomad

    nomad Star commenter

    No idea, to be honest.

    If I eat out in a pub, I shall have left the premises by 7.30pm at the latest.
     
  17. Doitforfree

    Doitforfree Star commenter

    My son's just gone back to university where he's living in halls again. He said there was some kind of party going on in the courtyard at 5am on Sunday. Wouldn't you have thought there'd be a responsible adult on site to clamp down on this kind of thing?

    I've not left the house after 10pm (depressing in itself) for six months so I have no idea what happens at the village pubs in the evening, but I'm guessing it's not very much!
     
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  18. Rott Weiler

    Rott Weiler Star commenter Forum guide

    University students are adults, aren't they?
     
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  19. red_observer

    red_observer Star commenter

    Yes we are ok here in the Midlands but I still think it’s irresponsible behaviour
     
  20. littlejackhorner

    littlejackhorner Senior commenter

    Thinking about it, I'm in an area with extra restrictions so the only socialising that can officially be done is in pubs and restaurants. So the impact of the 10pm closure will naturally be a lot more evident.
    To those who say they are not out at that time I know the feeling. If we do go out we are usually back by 8 and that was the case before any restrictions.
    The only outing I have after 10pm is the quick dog walk to ensure he doesn't wake me through the night.
     

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