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Is it still an insult?

Discussion in 'Personal' started by DrLinus, May 31, 2020.


Is ******* still an insult?

  1. Yes

    11 vote(s)
  2. No

    3 vote(s)
  1. DrLinus

    DrLinus Lead commenter

    Given the increasing prevalence of wonderful babies born to fine, unwed parents, cohabiting or otherwise, is the word variously replaced by basket and bar steward still an insult?

    Poll above for those who wish to respond.
  2. Corvuscorax

    Corvuscorax Star commenter

    It depends if it is used as an insult.
    Laphroig, sodalime, 7eleven and 3 others like this.
  3. Rott Weiler

    Rott Weiler Star commenter Forum guide

    Yes, although not because people are using it in its original meaning of child born to unwed parents. Meanings morph. Now if called a basxxxx it's more likely to be an insult accusing someone of being an unpleasant and despicable person. (No wonder TES still asterisks it out!)
  4. blazer

    blazer Star commenter

    My friends in the US, many of them teachers, use the word like we might use the word 'pillock' even referring to the kids sometimes. I had to pull up one friend whilst on a visit here when he shouted it across a restaurant at one of his colleagues!
    Doitforfree, agathamorse and DrLinus like this.
  5. DrLinus

    DrLinus Lead commenter

    Difficult to read A Song of Ice and Fire or watch its adaptation if easily offended by this word.

  6. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

  7. nomad

    nomad Star commenter

    Not if you are referring to a right tool...

    Last edited: May 31, 2020
  8. Rott Weiler

    Rott Weiler Star commenter Forum guide

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  9. Aquamarina1234

    Aquamarina1234 Star commenter

    I can understand how the original term in question came into use as a term of contempt, given the attitude towards sex outside marriage, but I've never understood why it was also used to describe a really nasty piece of work. I can see that being born without name, status or paternal financial support could bestow challenging living conditions which could result in a less than sunshiny attitude, but it seems unfair to presume it.
    SeanbheanMac and phlogiston like this.
  10. nomad

    nomad Star commenter

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  11. rararasputin

    rararasputin Lead commenter

    When I tell my Y7s what William the I's nickname was, I then usually have to explain the original meaning - most of them don't have a clue.
  12. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    I dropped a bast@rd hammer on my foot yesterday. Is that similar?
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  13. racroesus

    racroesus Star commenter

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  14. nomad

    nomad Star commenter

    Not really.

    In heraldry, coats of arms of belonging to nobility born outside of wedlock bore a device known as the ‘bendlet sinister’ - basically a diagonal stripe that ran from the top right of the shield to the bottom left. This was narrower than the full width bend, hence bendlet.


    This was the usual mark used to identify illegitimate descendants of the English royal family dating from fifteenth century.

    The link to a file is that this is the same direction that the teeth of a single cut file run in; top right to bottom left.

    As you can (just) see in the photo above or here.

    Last edited: May 31, 2020
  15. Rott Weiler

    Rott Weiler Star commenter Forum guide

    What arcane knowledge I learn here!

    Must join a pub quiz team :)
  16. Aquamarina1234

    Aquamarina1234 Star commenter

    I actually am fascinated!
    Jamvic and nomad like this.
  17. rararasputin

    rararasputin Lead commenter

    I know a lot more about sheds than I did a week ago :D
    Jamvic, WB, Rott Weiler and 1 other person like this.
  18. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter


    Very interesting. That explains the Peruvian national side of 1978.

    Sorry Scotland. (works better without a comma)
    nomad likes this.
  19. EmanuelShadrack

    EmanuelShadrack Star commenter

    I know a few people who are right tools.
    agathamorse and nomad like this.
  20. WB

    WB Lead commenter

    My god, the things I've learned in 19 posts!

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