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Introverts, classroom environments and ADHD

Discussion in 'Personal' started by sparkleghirl, Oct 4, 2015.

  1. sparkleghirl

    sparkleghirl Star commenter

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  2. marymoocow

    marymoocow Star commenter

    I've long been saying this. As a fairly quiet person myself, I hated this drive towards employing only tigger teachers, bouncing in loud enthusiasm. I used to see quieter children overwhelmed by these teachers. There used to be a variety of personality types in teaching, some children worked well with one type of teacher and others with another, but there would be a balance through there time in school. Now introverts are often treated like they have an affliction that needs to be cured and to be forced to conform to team work, rather than meeting the needs of everyone and celebrated each child's individuality.
  3. emilystrange

    emilystrange Star commenter

    working in a team at every opportunity drives me nuts. i can't think properly about what we're doing because there's always someone who won't shut up. bah. and there's always the pressure to have a consensus.
  4. sparkleghirl

    sparkleghirl Star commenter

    Yes, I remember a lovely girl I taught once, she wasn't shy in our small group class but was quiet in large groups. Several times concerns were raised about her, school counsellor was brought in, but the main concern seemed to be that she was reserved and spend breaktime reading rather than chatting or playing on her phone.

    The boy's comment struck me because it occurred to me that the huge rise in ADHD (which didn't exist when I was at school) coincides with our drive towards entertainment-over-education and I wonder how much it can be blamed on the lack of a quiet environment
  5. Flere-Imsaho

    Flere-Imsaho Star commenter

    For all the lip service to learning styles there really isn't much account taken in some schools of how individuals want to learn. I think pupils must be exhausted moving from one highly social and interactive lesson to the next with little time to properly absorb and assimilate what they are learning. My pupils are always amazed at what they can do when I make them work in silence. For some It's hard to get 10 minutes of concentration but they build on that over the term and often even the twitchy ones get absorbed in their task.
  6. Dragonlady30

    Dragonlady30 Star commenter

    What an excellent thread reflecting the opinions of those on the sharp end-the chalk face practitioners. Surely there should be a variety of environments offered for the learning of our classes if, for no other reason, it keeps them on their toes as they never know what to expect. ;)

    Seriously, though, too much of any one thing is not going to suit everyone, and I've never been a believer in, 'He who shouts loudest..........'
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  7. Flere-Imsaho

    Flere-Imsaho Star commenter

    I need the variety for my own sanity too. A whole day of noisy, planned to the minute, co-operative learning group work would drive me to distraction.
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  8. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

    Spot on.

    I told one of my girls, "If you don't want friends, dear, then you don't have to have them. I don't and I that's the way I like it. Everybody is different so don't let anyone tell you that you should or that you must."

    Years later she told me I'd saved her life. An exaggeration. But kids need to hear this simple truth.

    It's all very well psychologists warbling on about the contentment of those with big social circles. Fine. But not for EVERYONE,
  9. catmother

    catmother Star commenter

    Well said. I've never been a "joiner" and when I was a pupil,the idea of having to join in and work in a group would have been a nightmare.
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  10. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

    I still can't do groups. Went to a Labour party meeting on Wednesday and was ready to volunteer to manage the twitterfeed locally until I heard that you do it cooperatively.

    Sorry. Just let me get on with it. I'll do a good job but meetings? People? Yakking? Ugh.

    And working in groups as a kid? We didn't do that in my day. THANK GOD.

    I have 2 speeds. Very fast (and can't bear to be slowed down) or just give up and lose interest.
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  11. magic surf bus

    magic surf bus Star commenter

    Likewise I was never a team player, and have always actively disliked team sports. Try saying that in an interview these days though. It always made me empathise with the pupils at the fringes of everything, and adults too - there's room in this life for all sorts.

    My daughter summed it up beautifully recently: 'Whenever the teacher gave you groupwork you always knew it was going to be a doss.'
  12. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Every occasion where I've been told I should work in a team has resulted in the team descending into moaning about school, being put in my faculty, with people I dislike, or being in a 'team' where the SLT member delegates the work to others and claims the credit.

    Team work is pointless in teaching IMO
  13. bombaysapphire

    bombaysapphire Star commenter

    The amount of work completed by pupils in the classroom is inversely proportional to the number of pupils in each group.
  14. Flere-Imsaho

    Flere-Imsaho Star commenter

    I think my department work well as a team. But it's built naturally rather than being told we need to work together.
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  15. Dunteachin

    Dunteachin Star commenter

    There's no 'I' in team.

    No, but there's a 'me'.
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  16. bombaysapphire

    bombaysapphire Star commenter

    There is an i. If you look carefully you will find it in the A hole. (This really needs a graphic but imagine a narrow capital A!)
  17. catmother

    catmother Star commenter

  18. catmother

    catmother Star commenter

    Same here. I dislike sports and especially team sports with a passion and I'm so glad that I went to school in France rather than in the UK. My school is now seemingly run by the "sport monkeys" and I really feel sorry for the pupils who are not into sport.
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  19. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    On the subject of team sports... I always loathed them at school, seemed to mostly be an excuse for the more able to belittle the less able. But after school on a friday I do play football with colleagues. I'm not much good but it's a chance to socialise which I value.
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  20. bombaysapphire

    bombaysapphire Star commenter

    I hated team sports at school too. I still avoid sports day like the plague. Despite that I now row twice a week (well I do when my leg isn't in plaster!)

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