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Interview Hell close to breaking point!!! Help/Advice needed!

Discussion in 'Workplace dilemmas' started by MissAhmed17, Nov 30, 2017.

  1. MissAhmed17

    MissAhmed17 New commenter

    Hi Everyone,

    Just wanted to post my story of an interview I had and what happended. I'll give a little background first. I've been a trained Science teacher for 14 years spending all this time in a high school. Last year partner left and had a few close family deaths so I finished did supply. Anyway I was stressed to point of mental breakdown and I did supply once bit better earlier this year. Been applying for numerous jobs (i'm a newbie at interviews and very much want regular work as I am now living alone with 2 kids and struggling is not the word....
    Applied for Level 3 TA with specialism for science, got through to shortlisting and went to the interview last Wednesday. Interview Ok and so did interview but nothing great. We were all told we would be told the outcome by telephone that afternoon (the interview was in morning)... so I wasn't confident and waited for "sorry but.." call... and waited...and waited some more. 9pm comes I get one of the people I used on my reference congratualting me saying well done? Shocked I said I haven't been told. Anyway... cut a long story short the following morning I bump into my other referee saying congratulations I had been successful they said dependent on references of course... All Thursday goes with no call from the school, I turned down an interview for Monday gone. After 5 CALLS to the school given that the person works only 2 days, they usually wait for references to come back etc? When the woamn called she said unfortunately it's took her a while "I wasn't successful, but they send for references anyway cos they could do with another TA but doesn't look like the headteacher is going to approve another. Sorry!"!!!!!!!!!!!

    So I've turned down an interview also with a science specialism, everyone thinks including my supply agencies I have a position, I have turned down 3 weeks of Chemistry teaching at a local FE college which I deperately needed before Christmas and I've lost the very little confidence I had in all things just and fair. ANY HELP / ADVICE APPRECIATED! IS THIS LEGAL? Why couldn't they just say I didn't get it? Insread took 10 minutes on the phone to tell me I hadn't been successful and the wording of the email to my referees was a mistake, even though they did request hours after the interview!!!! Confused, sad and let down ;-(
  2. Jessaki

    Jessaki Occasional commenter

    I am sorry to hear you have been messed around. It is unprofessional for a school to say they will notify you of the outcome of an interview on a specific day, but then not stick to it. However, your referees were in the wrong here. They should never have indicated you had been offered the job, because you had not been notified by the school. Some schools, if they cannot choose between two candidates, may seek references to help in the decision making (and a courtesy call to the candidates informing them of a delay in the decision making would be appropriate). However, you have no recourse. The school never contacted you to make a verbal offer, so you were never offered the job. Regardless of how your referees interpreted the email from the school, you were still never offered the job. So, to turn down other interviews, without a formal job offer really is a mistake you made. The school are a not fault legally. I am sorry to say this. My advice, keep going on interviews until you receive a formal job offer in person.
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  3. sparkleghirl

    sparkleghirl Star commenter

    Sorry to hear this, but the school hasn't really done anything wrong. I'm surprisd that not one but two referees should congratulate you as in my experience it's common to ask for references before a decision has been made.

    Get back in touch with your agencies and let them know that you are, after all, still available.

    Don't burn your boats with this school. If they really asked for references for you hoping that the HT would approve another post then it may be that you will now be top of the list for when the time comes that they need someone there.

    Good luck and I hope you find something soon.
  4. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter

    I think you were lucky not to get a job at this particular school - sounds as if they couldn't, as they say, organise a drinks party in a brewery!
  5. Shedman

    Shedman Star commenter

    If a school says they'll ring you the same day and they don't always assume you haven't got the job and carry on as normal.
    asnac, gadgetgirl123, pepper5 and 9 others like this.
  6. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter

    That should be the case, but I remember cases when it wasn't - for whatever reason, the school held on for a day or 2 before offering a job.
    Shedman and pepper5 like this.
  7. dts

    dts Occasional commenter

    A former colleague of mine applied for a job and was interviewed. She heard nothing, despite several phone calls from her - nearly five weeks later the school phoned and offered her the job!
    pepper5 likes this.
  8. forthejoyofit

    forthejoyofit New commenter

    Usually the school need their 1st choice candidate to accept the job before they let the rest else stand down.
  9. phlogiston

    phlogiston Star commenter

    Sorry you've been messed around. I would be seriously upset if this happened to me.
    However, they've done nothing actually wrong apart from rudely not communicating.
    Moral of the story is not to turn down work or interviews until they come at you waving at least a verbal contract.

    A school in Wiltshire still hasn't let me know about the interview in 1982. I'm rather assuming I didn't get it.

    Many years ago, an unsuccessful candidate was offered a job in my then school, two months after the interview when another vacancy arose. This candidate was a rather more successful teacher than the person offered the first job, who proved "idiosyncratic" in his teaching methods and eventually "disappeared". I saw bits of both interview lessons, the day to day reality was very different to the "show" lesson.
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  10. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter

    Far from unique, in my experience!
    asnac likes this.
  11. JosieWhitehead

    JosieWhitehead Star commenter

    Miss Ahmen - I can't give you any more advice than you've had from these good people, but I want you to know that you are in my thoughts and my prayers, and we'd all love to hear that things in your life will be much better as time passes. Lots of love from us all on here.
    pepper5 likes this.
  12. MissAhmed17

    MissAhmed17 New commenter

    Thank you so much for replying. It sort of put it's in perspective a bit. I am just extremely disappointed in the school asking for two refrences and satying I was "successful at interview earlier today". Sort of a bold statement even if it is still in the school's rights to do this but very unprofessional that they took so many days to contact me then when they did the explanation was very sheepish and doubtful. I have told my agencies today I am still available (one of them covers the school I have this episode with) and as yet I've told one of the people who did my reference of the situation. He is a Deputy Head in a school I used to work in and he had never heard of this kind of conduct before. I guess it's one of them, hopefully not representative of most schools? ;-(
    pepper5 likes this.
  13. cheesypop

    cheesypop Senior commenter

    When I was applying for my first teaching jobs (nearly 20 years ago!!) I kept ‘coming second’. I thought everyone was told that and it was utter b*******. I eventually got a job after giving the HOD such a look after him telling me I had come second, he decided that would be quite an effective look to use on the students! Another job came up a week later and they dug out my application and offered me the job!
    (The person they had offered the job to was an absolute tool - it was back in the day when everyone didn’t have mobiles so they kept you all in a room til they had decided then called the successful candidate in..)
  14. Jolly_Roger1

    Jolly_Roger1 Star commenter

    I worked with a chap who, following an interview, was offered and accepted a job over the phone, about which he subsequently heard no more. When he approached the school, he was told that he had been mistaken and that he had been phoned to ask whether he would accept the job if he was offered it. He thought this sounded odd, as he had been asked that at the interview. The NUT sympathised but could do little as it was one person's word against another.
  15. pepper5

    pepper5 Star commenter

    I agree with Frank that you were probably fortunate not to get the job at the school that messed you about.
  16. peakster

    peakster Star commenter

    The entire school interview system is a complete mess and unworthy of professional organisations in some cases.
  17. Psychochick

    Psychochick New commenter

    Sorry to hear about this, it sounds like an awful place to work anyway. Having been in a similar-ish situation a few weeks ago, all I can say is you are best off out of there, there will be something better round the corner. At one point in my (soon to be over!!!) supply career I was offered a job one day to be told the next that they hadn't offered me the job and what's more they wouldn't even be considering me. Unfortunately these schools are out there, we're just unlucky if we get hit by them.

    Count your blessings, if that's what they do on interview, when they're supposed to be on show, what's it like day to day?
  18. Psychochick

    Psychochick New commenter

    How true, I could tell you some stories...
  19. peakster

    peakster Star commenter

    Me too - I've had maybe 15 school interview days - most were pretty dire.
  20. JosieWhitehead

    JosieWhitehead Star commenter

    Yes, I am sure this is quite right. Don't worry, it doesn't always happen like this. You are right, it was not very professional, but remember that 98% of people are the opposite to their rudeness. Good luck.

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