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Interesting BBC 'error'

Discussion in 'Personal' started by monicabilongame, Nov 11, 2019.

  1. monicabilongame

    monicabilongame Star commenter


    The BBC have been accused of ‘covering up’ Boris Johnson’s extraordinary gaffes during yesterday’s Remembrance Day service at the Cenotaph – where he stepped out of line too early and laid his wreath upside down – by using footage from 2016 rather than from yesterday’s proceedings in their rolling news reports.

    A tweet from Ava-Santina, a producer at LBC, revealed that the BBC have made the bizarre decision to use footage of Boris Johnson from three years ago to report on yesterday’s Remembrance Day service.

    Ava-Santina tweeted:

    “Slide One is Boris Johnson, yesterday, laying a wreath upside down on the Cenotaph”

    “Slide Two is the footage BBC News are rolling with this morning – bizarrely, it’s from 2016.”



    The BBC have responded by saying their decision to use the 2016 footage was a “production mistake“.

    What sort of mistake can it be that substitutes footage of an event that happened yesterday, with footage of an event that happened 3 years ago, and for which someone would have had to go hunting? (and presumably hope that viewers were too thick to notice...)
  2. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Star commenter

    Deal clincher. A lot of Tory voters will switch to Labour once they find out about this.
  3. artboyusa

    artboyusa Star commenter

    Upside down wreath? I hate him now. Worse than Hitler.
    Aquamarina1234 and lanokia like this.
  4. nomad

    nomad Star commenter

    Unlikely. ;)

    But it does seem odd not to use the most recent footage, especially as the footage used shows Boris laying a wreath NOT made out of poppies!

    Still. Not to worry! The real footage will be shown in 2022. :)

    Ruaridh Arrow, the Producer/Director of BBC's Hardtalk has Tweeted the following:

    For anyone freaking out about the #BBC playing Boris at the Cenotaph in 2016 I can promise it wasn’t a conspiracy. It’s the result of a hurried producer searching ‘Boris Cenotaph’ in our footage library and not checking the date. Nobody is telling us what to do.

    Last edited: Nov 11, 2019
  5. monicabilongame

    monicabilongame Star commenter

  6. nomad

    nomad Star commenter

    Hmmm. Interesting. BBC vs BBC!

    Interestingly, though, it appears that it was in a piece broadcast on the BBC yesterday as this was the first time overseas territories laid their own wreaths rather than the Foreign Secretary do it on their behalf. So, it would have been on the server with current rather than archive footage.

    Last edited: Nov 11, 2019

    MAGAorMIGA Star commenter

    Dismiss it all you like. Had that been Corbyn, I invite you to imagine the BBC and popular press reaction right now - wall-to-wall scorn and derision. Given that there is form for "not bowing deep enough"/"not singing loudly enough"/"wrong coat" so-called scandals surrounding Remembrance Sunday, this treatment of Johnson speaks volumes for the depth of BBC bias. Something MUST be done about the BBC.
  8. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Yes... you never see that aimed at Johnson... never! :eek:
    artboyusa, needabreak and nomad like this.
  9. CraigCarterSmith

    CraigCarterSmith Established commenter

    ignore all evidence of video production "experts" we've had enough of them
  10. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    And yet our media goes out of its way to fabricate similar stories about Mr Corbyn

    Such as the "dancing" farce

    And there was the not bowing down far enough

    Not having the right coat.

    It's almost like our establishment are scared sh******* of him.

  11. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    Indeed, he was Foreign Secretary in 2016 and followed the tradition of laying a wreath made by Kew Gardens from a variety of plants to represents the UK’s Overseas Territories. This year, representatives of the Overseas Territories laid their own (red poppy) wreaths, as did the PM. I thought everyone knew that. :)
    LondonCanary and nomad like this.
  12. Oscillatingass

    Oscillatingass Star commenter

    And...….. he tells lies you know. Hmm he's worse than a pick pocket. ;)
    nomad likes this.
  13. Oscillatingass

    Oscillatingass Star commenter

    Well if you believe that you'll believe Theresa May wasn't behind the Salisbury Novichok poisonings.
    nomad likes this.
  14. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Star commenter

    He has that in spades already. It will be worse if he is the reason there is not a Labour government on Dec 13th
    needabreak and Oscillatingass like this.
  15. nomad

    nomad Star commenter

    A man who won’t express an opinion between leave or remain but is able to express a clear preference regarding the internal politics of Bolivia.

    For once I agree with the Independent.


    Please note - It wasn't me who brought Corbyn into the conversation! ;)
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  16. Rott Weiler

    Rott Weiler Star commenter Forum guide

    Not really. The tweet is from someone who (from my brief search online) was an radio editor in BBC Radio Wales who left the BBC in 2006. If it is the same person I can't see how her opinion on how easy a mistake it is to make (based on her knowledge of procedures and technology that is 13 years out of date) should carry the same weight as the denial and explanation from the current Producer of the programme.

    Except to conspiracy theorists and BBC haters of course :) [I don't mean you @nomad!]
    nomad likes this.
  17. blazer

    blazer Star commenter

    But they edited 2 pieces together but didn't notice that he was wearing different clothes, was carrying an entirely different wreath and when he laid it the PM's wreath was already in position on the top step.
    monicabilongame likes this.
  18. Weald56

    Weald56 Established commenter

  19. artboyusa

    artboyusa Star commenter

    Unsettling experience, that GIF; with Corbyn looking at you like a man parked outside a schoolyard.
  20. Orkrider2

    Orkrider2 Star commenter

    considering how people keep bandying phrases like ‘the will of the people’ about, why does it matter what his exact preference is? It’s supposed to be a democracy after all, and He’s made it clear he believes the best strategy is to negotiate a leave deal then put it back to the British public. More democratic than other politicians who either want to ignore the fact that more than half the people (just) who voted wanted to leave, or ignore the fact that the campaign for Brexit which won the vote was based on half-truths and misinformation.

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