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Institute for Learning - A Tribute

Discussion in 'Further Education' started by Mistermandolin, Jun 9, 2010.

  1. TCSC47

    TCSC47 Star commenter


    Well, thankyou very much Mistermandolin. All the best to you too, and as we say in the trade "Don't let the B#ggers grind you down"!
    # = u not e by the way!
     
  2. I think that the Discussion tab on the IfL Facebook site has been "regularly 'spammed' by European sites of ill repute", according to Lee Davies. This means, I suppose, that it is unlikely to appear again.
    I love that phrase, "ill repute." Makes you wonder, doesn't it?
     
  3. I guess we'll have to take his word for it then, cardoon. Fortuitous, in a way, that a bunch of disreputable European spammers would choose to target the IfL. It would certainly give them the opportunity to make sure that nobody in High Office got to see any posts that were less than enthusiastic about what they were getting from their IfL membership. And particularly fortuitous, I'd say, given the slack vote of confidence they received from the Secretary of State for Business, Innovation and Skills in the House of Commons on 26th July. I can't understand why the IfL would want to trumpet that on their website, can you? He basically said: 'They're nothing to do with us. Judge them according to their own rules.' Was it just me or did anybody else detect a whiff of Pilate snickering and washing his hands?
     
  4. I've decided to take a leaf out of your book, Mistermandolin. It's now five days after the deadline for registering one's CPD with the IfL and - oh goodness, I have been such a quiet, obedient, law-abiding mouse all my life - I still haven't declared mine! When can I expect my first threatening letter?
     
  5. I notice the discussion tab has appeared on the IfL Facebook site again. Those people of ill repute must have gone away!
     
  6. Good decision, cardoon. I suspect that you and tens of thousands of IfL members will refuse to declare their CPD this time round. After all, over 60,000 failed to declare last time - by the organization's own admission.
    What can you expect from the IfL as a response to your non-declaration? Well, if my experience is anything to go by it'll be a series of ever more strident e-mails followed by a nasty and intimidating letter some time around February. I threw mine away but I know of colleagues who were genuinely stressed by what they received: an appalling situation to be put in by an organization supposedly set up to represent their interests. But after that; well, nothing, really. Of course, all this presupposes that the IfL will have enough money to pay the postage in six months' time. That's looking doubtful, given the fact that they'll not be getting any more government cash handouts after this year. And if last year's level of non-compliance is anything to go by, Toni 'n' Lee will need an awful lot of stamps. They may have admitted that they're licked before then, though....and a jolly good riddance it'll be...
     
  7. Thank you for that, Mistermandolin. Will have to wait for the strident e-mails.
    Do you think that having to pay to belong to the IfL will encourage rebellion amongst the masses?
     
  8. Interesting question, cardoon. The IfL appear to think that they're some kind of equivalent body to, say, the Chartered Institute of Management Accountants (CIMA). Everything points to their modelling themselves on that sort of professional body; including their attempt to issue licenses to practice and to revoke them when they deem it fit. (Of course, if you started work in the sector prior to 2007 you don't need to obtain QTLS - which is, in effect, the license - and obviously the IfL can't revoke what they haven't, in fact, issued...but I digress)...
    Now, membership of CIMA currently costs £240 and accountants are happy to pay this as they generally earn more than teachers/lecturers and in addition they know that when they pay it they are going to get their money's worth from what is a properly established and well functioning professional organization: unlike the IfL which, as we all know, is nothing of the sort. The question is: how much are teachers and lecturers willing to pay every year to be represented by a body like the IfL? In the absence of their five million a year government subsidy they will clearly have to raise subscriptions considerably. But how much is too much? Many of us who had to pay nothing at all to belong to the IfL have already deemed that to be too high a price.
     
  9. Just to clarify: CIMA membership is £240 per year...
     
  10. Jude Fawley

    Jude Fawley Star commenter

    Claimed back plus tax.
    That's "plus tax".
     
  11. Thanks for reminding us that it's tax deductible expense, Jude. Assuming a CIMA member pays 25% tax I calculate that they would pay for their subscription, per annum, six times what the current annual IfL subscription is (for those who actually have to pay it).
     
  12. they are not on the list of quangos to be scrapped published yesterday
     
  13. This is why I have never joined the IfL.
     
  14. Can someone direct me to any publication which states clearly that IFL are going?
     
  15. just googled and found this on parliament website, might help http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201011/cmhansrd/cm101102/text/101102w0004.htm#qn_253
     
  16. TCSC47

    TCSC47 Star commenter

    Cheers cheflecturer. There is so much www noise out there that I am finding these things harder and harder to find.
    Just though I would copy it here. -- cos I can!
    ****************************************
    2 Nov 2010 : Column 761W
    To ensure that both teaching and subject specialist skills are maintained and enhanced all FE teachers are required to demonstrate an annual commitment of at least 30 hours of Continuing Professional Development (CPD). The Government are committed to maintaining requirements for a professional qualified FE teaching workforce.
    With regard to schools my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Education has asked Professor Alison Wolf to carry out an independent review of vocational education. Professor Wolf will consider the organisation, funding, and target audience for vocational education, and the principles that should underpin the content, structure and teaching methods. She will report in spring 2011, and her findings will inform future developments to improve the standard of vocational education for 14-19 year-olds. As the findings of the review emerge the Department for Education will consider the implications for the teaching of vocational education in schools.
    **************************************
    Is this saying that the decision about the IFL will have to wait until Spring 2011?

     
  17. That is how I am reading it. In the meantime I suppose we will have to carryon logging our 30 hours of CPD.
     
  18. TCSC47

    TCSC47 Star commenter

    The one thing in all the IFL debacle that I don't have a problrm with, is logging CPD. We should be doing it, so we might as well have it recorded and get credit for it.
    The problem for me in the year before last, was I spent so much time trying to understand Reflect, and whilst others seemed happy with it, it just wouldn't go into my head!
    It was from this that all my antagonism for the IFL started.
    In the end when I discovered that I could ignore Reflect and that all I really had to do was to say on my IFL page that I had done the 30 hrs. with no real details needed on the site, ---- well, that simply trebled my anger!!!
     
  19. I don't read it like that at all, in fact I read it that after the wolf review vocational teachers in schools will have to be members too, and rightly so
     
  20. TCSC47

    TCSC47 Star commenter

    This bit maybe? "The Government are committed to maintaining requirements for a professional qualified FE teaching workforce."
    professional qualified = membership of IFL (not wanting to go back over what is a profession please.)
     

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