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In Vino Veritas?

Discussion in 'Teaching abroad' started by the hippo, Jun 24, 2012.

  1. the hippo

    the hippo Lead commenter Community helper

    Recently a female colleague told me a story about a young teacher at a certain Academy in Qatar. He went on a field-trip to Italy and one evening he decided to have a rather expensive glass of wine with his dinner. It was very expensive because it cost him his job. Of course some of the students were Al Thanis and they complained to their parents about his little tipple as soon as they got back to Doha.
     
  2. the hippo

    the hippo Lead commenter Community helper

    Recently a female colleague told me a story about a young teacher at a certain Academy in Qatar. He went on a field-trip to Italy and one evening he decided to have a rather expensive glass of wine with his dinner. It was very expensive because it cost him his job. Of course some of the students were Al Thanis and they complained to their parents about his little tipple as soon as they got back to Doha.
     
  3. MisterMaker

    MisterMaker Occasional commenter

    Whilst rather extreme consequences, consuming alcohol whilst in the presence of the ones you're looking after was a tad silly; especially as they were Al Thanis. SHould have been sensible and waiting til lights out. Sympathies for the poor lad, but we always have to be aware the nature of the beast in these parts of the world. Was this a Tell Em group school?
    I have been told various stories over the years about similar inciddents, including one young pair of ladies escorted out of their top paid job in UAE many moons ago after getting drunk then dancing on a table in a bar - a parent was in the same bar getting pished. My presumption based on nothing but my experience with UAE nationals was the parent wanted to get to know them and they rejected him - no proof whatsoever of th latter part, pure supposition.
     
  4. moscowbore

    moscowbore Star commenter

    In my last school in Vietnam we were not allowed to drink at the sixth form dinner dance. We toasted with water.
     
  5. Karvol

    Karvol Occasional commenter

    School boy error.
    I have to admit though, that I have my doubts about the story. The facts don't seem to ring true.
    In order for the field trip to Italy to go through, there must have been more staff than just the young teacher accompanying them. In which case, as dinner would be a group affair, there would be older members of staff on hand to make sure such errors were not committed. The second point is, that unless the kids did not like the teacher in question, they wouldn't have complained. I spent 6 years in the Middle East, and alcohol is not as frowned upon as people may assume.The guy ( I presume ) is not muslim. He is not in a muslim country.
    The question - to me - is not really about the glass of wine upsetting the kids, but about being responsible with kids. The rule that my school operates on is that if the kids on your trip are too young to drink, then neither should you while you are in charge. Perhaps this was the real reason that the teacher got fired?
     
  6. gulfgolf

    gulfgolf Established commenter

    To me as well, the question is not about where visiting, where the school is or which children were watching.
    Drinking on a student trip is ill advised. Drinking on the job when your employer expressly forbids it, ill advised. Drinking while holding a duty of care, ill advised.
    Why turn this story into something that makes it seem like the children's responsibility? There were children on the trip, and there were adults. The adult made a serious error. How is it the children's job to keep mum?
     
  7. The policy I ran with school trips was
    *Designated Drivers - none
    *General Muster - one drink with dinner, one after lights out.
    *Off Duty Rabble - one drink with dinner, don't come back ******. Wake the kids up or don't appear for breakfast expect to lose a testicle.
    No booze - no one would volunteer for the trips was the hard logic behind this.[​IMG]
    Worked in UK and the ME (but we didn't have the Al Thanis).[​IMG]
     
  8. Last time I was at a function with students, I reckon I supped about ten or so pints - not sure if anyone noticed...
    Don't panic, that's just a few liveners for me and my liver.
    Once I had left that function, the serious guzzling got going...
    Beer is good.


     
  9. In what capacity? SMT?

     
  10. stopwatch

    stopwatch Lead commenter

    A colleague of mine who was due to take a group of children for an overseas sports tour, was at a social function where parents were also present (and also pretty inebriated).
    She was unwise enough to spout about how the staff were also looking forward to having a few beers and enjoying the trip too.
    Parent complained to school the following week. School stopped the member of staff from going on the trip, but made her continue all of the organisation and pre-planning.
    I think it was unwise of her to spout as she did.
    I am of the school of thought that school trips and alcohol don't mix (in general) particularly if it is against the policy of the school.
    But then I'm an old fuddy duddy traditionalist......... and a killjoy [​IMG]
     
  11. How silly of any teacher to trust a parent or have one as a friend. They're bastards.
     
  12. stopwatch

    stopwatch Lead commenter

    This particular parent was vindictive and had goaded/lured the said member of staff into saying what she did.
    Schadenfreude
     
  13. Not always the case, Stoppers. I socialise with a couple of parents and they are monsters. And we get monstered. But they are class - oddly, they didn't get a vote...
     

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