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Ill health retirement

Discussion in 'Retirement' started by 1970devon, May 31, 2018.

  1. LadyForlorn

    LadyForlorn New commenter

    HI there. In my case it took 5 days from them receiving the paperwork to me receiving their letter.

    Good luck with your application.
     
  2. 1970devon

    1970devon Occasional commenter

    I had my initial application rejected and it took about 4 weeks to hear. I was devastated but on receiving the explanatory letter and talking over with my union I understand their reasons. I am in process of regathering and expanding required evidence; ironically I feel much better in myself now and more able to approach logically rather than emotionally. I think this is because I have now left teaching. My appeal will hopefully go in, in about 10 days,and I cross fingers for hearing positively a few weeks after that. It is very stressful as presently missing my income and still obviously have outgoings. Everything seems to take so long!
     
  3. lju

    lju New commenter

    My rejection letter only stated one additional item they felt they needed and I have supplied this so I am hopeful my appeal will succeed. My application has disappeared from the tracking section of their website this morning, so I assume a letter is on the way.
     
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  4. pmichelmore

    pmichelmore New commenter

    That’s what happened with me, I called them as soon as it disappeared and they told me I’d been acccpeted on the phone- so maybe call the, tomorrow?
     
  5. lju

    lju New commenter

    I have tried to phone this morning, system is still down. She did confirm if it's disappeared a decision has been made and a letter should be on the way and that if the system was working she could have told me the decision over the phone.
     
  6. lju

    lju New commenter

    Appeal letter has just arrived. Appeal has been rejected, they accept I am currently unfit to teach but state that in the next xx years I may be fit to offer reading support or part time home tutoring! It just feels as though they have now moved the goal posts.
     
  7. 1970devon

    1970devon Occasional commenter

    Oh no! Not good. Were you in fulltime role before? Have you had union input etc? I really feel for you. Have you thought about next steps? x
     
  8. lju

    lju New commenter

    Yes full time role. Long term sick leave and dismissed as medically incapable of carrying out my duties. Full support of the union and OHU before applying. Full medical reports and plenty of evidence. It is disappointing, their letter today with reasons is very contradictory and in parts they have misinterpreted the evidence they have been provided with. My next step is a stage 2 appeal which will go in shortly. I find it astonishing that they can accept I am not fit to teach but state one to one tutoring may be an option as this wouldn't allow me to be a member of TP, and all the medical evidence states I am unfit for work of any description, it just doesn't add up.
     
  9. Bedlam3

    Bedlam3 Lead commenter

    That all sounds very contradictory plus you have been dismissed due to ill health so it is unfair dismissal then if you are fit to teach. Did they consider redeployment? Reading support or home tutoring doesn't bring in anywhere near the salary a class teacher is on.
     
  10. lju

    lju New commenter

    Redeployment was not an option. My condition is permanent, there is no further surgical option available and it is now just about pain management.
     
  11. 1970devon

    1970devon Occasional commenter

    The system is wrong. I too was dismissed due to ill health - with 2 conditions covered under equality act- but had my pension app rejected. I was only in a 0.4 post for the past 7 years but still not happy with the application. The union say it's very much about how the specialists/GPs reports read. It may be clear to most what they're saying but any vagueness can be a reason to reject.

    I wish you loads of luck for the 2nd appeal. x
     
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  12. Saffron5

    Saffron5 New commenter

    I'm about to start this process and very scared reading all this I wish you all luck
     
  13. lju

    lju New commenter

    It certainly seems they will try and use any excuse to refuse an application. 2nd Appeal has been sent, so it's wait and see again.
     
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  14. Saffron5

    Saffron5 New commenter

    I've found my union very supportive , school are also supporting weirdly occ health refused to give an opinion they did say I was unfit for work but wouldn't speculate as to whether i would get ill health retirement or not
     
  15. lju

    lju New commenter

    Are Occupational Health (Dr) filling in the medical section of your form? This is the most important bit as they have to answer the questions related to if you are fit to teach or fit to undertake work of any description.
     
  16. pmichelmore

    pmichelmore New commenter

    My GP did mine but I added the OH report separately...
     
  17. Saffron5

    Saffron5 New commenter

    Occ health waiting for reports from gp and pain clinic but I did expect them to give an opinion as they are the main source of evidence
     
  18. Saffron5

    Saffron5 New commenter

    I
    I'm waiting to see their report school are supporting so if they don't say the right thing guess I can ask for second referral
    My gp is also supporting so could ask her to complete forms too
     
  19. lju

    lju New commenter

    OHU Dr filled it in with me. I took all the answers to the questions with the relevant medical evidence highlighted to make it easier. He also examined me to confirm my disabilities. I was told by HR (probably wrongly) that the form could not be submitted unless the OHU Dr had filled in the medical form. Seen as though it's been rejected twice, I may have been better getting my GP to do it. However, TP have not disagreed with anything on the medical forms so who knows? It's a minefield.
     
  20. Saffron5

    Saffron5 New commenter

    I'm stuck in limbo now waiting I guess that's the same for everyone
     

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