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Ill health retirement

Discussion in 'Retirement' started by 1970devon, May 31, 2018.

  1. Julieann69

    Julieann69 New commenter

    Hi Im back here again as I still am unsure of how I’ll you must be to get I’ll health retirement.
    I had a meeting with bosses today as they had seen a letter from my doc saying that in the nature of my complex medical conditions renders any form of full time employment impossible or for that matter any future gainful employment. This has really stirred them up and they have asked me if I want to medically retire. I have denied this at the moment knowing they can dismis me . just don’t know what to do
     
  2. Brianthedog

    Brianthedog Occasional commenter

    Unfortunately you can't have it both ways. If medical experts are saying you're not fit to work, then your employers have to take that into account. If I were you, I'd argue about being able to have some form of alternative employment at some point in the future, and go for tier 1 ill health retirement.
    That way, you will access your teachers pension now, but be able to hopefully take up some form of employment in the future.
     
  3. Julieann69

    Julieann69 New commenter

    I know but it’s a frightening thought of having no money coming in. Tier 1 is meant to be hard to get.
     
  4. Julieann69

    Julieann69 New commenter

    I’m going to see if I can speak with OH tomorrow and ask if they think I’ll health retirement is a good option then what tier would they put me forward for. I have a big op coming up in April and I’m trying not to give myself anymore stress.
     
  5. Julieann69

    Julieann69 New commenter

    Thank you I will speak with OH tomorrow. P
     
  6. pmichelmore

    pmichelmore New commenter

    Hi guys, I'm in the same boat here, after a bad car accident a few years ago I'm left with all the discs in my neck being herniated and after relentless physio, medication, Surgical procedures, etc I'm really struggling to do even the two days I now work.
    My application took several months to get together with 7 different experts opinions including the famous words "unfit to teach", then it got stuck with the LEA for 3 weeks, the TPA received it last Thursday and I'm currently at 40% complete according to the task tracker, be interested to hear about progress from others.
     
  7. littlejackhorner

    littlejackhorner Occasional commenter

    My application seemed to be stuck at something like 40% for a couple of weeks. I checked each day but then got a letter saying it had been accepted
     
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  8. pmichelmore

    pmichelmore New commenter

    Thanks for this, I’m led to believe that it’s vital that your condition has to be permanent and that this is stated?
     
  9. littlejackhorner

    littlejackhorner Occasional commenter

    Yes that was what the union said to me. My consultant wrote something along the lines that I was unfit to teach but could consider other work.
    I believe if you are unsuccessful you can resubmit but I think you have to add extra evidence.
     
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  10. pmichelmore

    pmichelmore New commenter

    Just to let you all know that I heard today that I have been awarded Tier 1 IHR, it took about 10 days from TPS receiving the application to the notification.
    I had included over 60 pages of medical evidence, including MRI scans, consultants reports, surgery records, Physio reports, the Physio, Consultant and my GP all included the statement “unfit to teach” and stated that my condition is permanent.
    I also had involved OH who made alterations to my classroom and I had gone from full time to 0.4 in two years. It was also made clear in a lot of reports that everything in terms of treatments and school alterations had been exhausted, especially going to 0.7 last year and then 0.4 this year.
    I now have 6 weeks to agree a leaving date with my Head and then it’s on with the rest of my life. Wishing everyone good luck who is in limbo or thinking of applying
     
    Last edited: Feb 5, 2019
  11. LadyForlorn

    LadyForlorn New commenter

    That’s fantastic news! It is such a relief when the decision finally comes through isn’t it? You will not regret it.
     
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  12. pmichelmore

    pmichelmore New commenter

    Thank you very much, quite a bruising experience but worth it in the end.
     
  13. pmichelmore

    pmichelmore New commenter

    One thing does confuse me, the TPS said I have to agree a leaving date with my Head within 6 weeks but the acceptance letter states "If you are delivering lessons, etc.....................you should arrange for this to stop immediately"...
    So how can I continue for the next 6 weeks if I am to cease teaching??
    Any advise on this please??
    Thanks.
     
  14. border_walker

    border_walker Established commenter

    Isn't it just saying that they should pay you for the next 6 weeks?
     
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  15. Brianthedog

    Brianthedog Occasional commenter

    Perhaps this means that you're still entitled to be paid for 6 weeks if you wish to stay? I can't see how yo can possibly be expected to continue working there in the face of the outcome. Perhaps you suggest to your Head that you leave immediately with six weeks pay?
     
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  16. pmichelmore

    pmichelmore New commenter

    Spoke to TPS today and apparently this is superseded by an agreed leaving date if you are still employed! So after meeting my Head today my last day is March 14th.
    I also had a chat with the advisor at the TPS about why I was accepted, she was obviously a bit coy but did let slip that an application is immediately rejected unless there is clear evidence that your condition is permanent and that this is stated by at least 2/3 medical professionals!
     
  17. 1970devon

    1970devon Occasional commenter

    So glad for @pmichelmore. Good news. Me not so. Despite my GP and Hosp team supporting my claim, TPS have declined saying more evidence required. I am now in the position of no job, no pension and my GP telling me I'm currently unfit for any work. Add to that, after 32 yrs of NI contributions I am initially allowed to claim 12 weeks only of 148 per fortnight. The stress all adding to my physical conditions. Oh and Also a disability discrimination case against my employer which will take up to 12 months to happen. I live in quite a remote area and to see a specialist consultant means traveling 90 miles- 5 months waiting time or pay private for referal. I dont know how my mortgage will be paid after 1st march. :/
     
  18. pmichelmore

    pmichelmore New commenter

    Keep fighting, as I’ve reiterated it seems vital to have the word “permanent” stated with some medical evidence alluding to this, at least you have the opportunity to provide them with more evidence, maybe get your GP to write a letter?
    Good luck, am sure you will get there, you certainly deserve it...
     
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  19. pmichelmore

    pmichelmore New commenter

    I think the following advice from earlier in the thread is very wise:

    doesn’t help that I was teaching chemistry and it doesn’t really ‘fit’ with being visually impaired (tick box 1). It was the only subject I was qualified to teach (tick box 2) and reducing hours down to even one day a week woulnd’t help (tick box 3) Hence, I had ‘proof’ that all adjustments had been made.

    The condition I have is degenerative and with no treatment or cure available at all (tick box 4). There is highly unlikely to be any treatment available to alleviate symptoms before retirement age (tick box 5).
     
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  20. 1970devon

    1970devon Occasional commenter

    Thanks. My union and medical teams are all behind me. I think it is just the case of getting the right people to tick the right boxes and say the correct words. My medical reports were not specific enough about the fact that I won't ever be fit to teach. Hopefully I'll get there. :)
     
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