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Ill health retirement

Discussion in 'Retirement' started by 1970devon, May 31, 2018.

  1. 1970devon

    1970devon Occasional commenter

    @LadyForlorn unfortunately communications have currently broken down since head pushed for my dismissal without waiting for OH reports etc.
    I know they will support me wanting to leave! Whether they will support me leaving with pension is another thing.

    But I suppose of I have the backing of a head saying I've been unable to do my 2 day a week post adequately because of I'll health that would go a long way wouldn't it? My next OH appt is in 4 weeks and by then I hope to have support of my gp and union as well. Cross fingers!
     
  2. julieshaun

    julieshaun New commenter

     
  3. gmoore

    gmoore New commenter

    Hi,
    Forgive my ignorance but I am thinking of going for ill health retirement on the grounds of mental health and also scoliosis in my back which has severely affected my performance over the years. I have medical evidence for both issues. However I am worried that the money I would receive would be no where near enough to survive let alone live. I have been teaching since 1997 and am currently on L7 outer London weighting. Can anyone advice?
     
    Last edited: Jun 20, 2018
  4. PeterQuint

    PeterQuint Lead commenter

    Yes, create an account st TPS and you’ll see exactly how much you should be getting.
     
  5. Sundaytrekker

    Sundaytrekker Star commenter

    I knew someone with scoliosis who got medical retirement due to increased problems from it. It took a while to get the evidence sorted though.
     
  6. SG_2

    SG_2 New commenter

     
  7. SG_2

    SG_2 New commenter

    Do you mind me asking how much and what evidence you submitted? I am in process and terrified I will be refused as just can’t manage to work. I have medical reports from 2 consultants and from GP. Planning to ask for one from OH and have asked for statements of support from friends and colleagues.
     
  8. LadyForlorn

    LadyForlorn New commenter

    I sent in copies of several clinic letters from the hospital as well as a copy of my CVI (certificat of visual impairment). I was advised by the union rep to send in a copy of my PIP award letter, as this benefit is notoriously difficult to get. I completed my section of the application process with a lengthy attached document (from me) detailing my medical condition, how it affected my ability to teach, the adjustments and support I had received from the school and Access to Work over the last few years and the reasons why I could not longer teach even with these in place.

    I took copies of all these documents (as well as some hospital scans) when I had the appointment with the OH doctor who filled in the medical professional’s report form as part of the application process. He was a ‘genera’ OH doctor and was grateful that I had all the supporting documents from my consultants as he had never heard of my condition.

    Best of luck with your application!
     
  9. SG_2

    SG_2 New commenter

    Thank you. That’s really helpful. Sounds like I’m on similar lines so that’s reassuring. Did you have to have any interviews with the assessors?
    I hope you can enjoy your retirement despite your ill health.
     
  10. LadyForlorn

    LadyForlorn New commenter

    The only ‘interview’ I had was with the OH doctor who completed the medical professional’s part of the application forms. I was referred to him through HR. It was all a bit disorganised - they made an appointment with the subcontracted medical company’s doctor but then didn’t tell him what it was for! Luckily, I’d taken copies of everything (including all my medical reports and my copies of the forms) that I could leave with him so he had all the information he needed. The pension company’s medical board accepted the evidence without needing any further clarification.

    Retirement is wonderful. I don’t miss teaching at all! If you have any further questions about the process, feel free to ask.
     
  11. SG_2

    SG_2 New commenter

    Thank you so much for all your help. It’s so good to talk to someone who has been through it. Really pleased you are enjoying your retirement
     
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  12. dannilavery

    dannilavery New commenter

    Hi there. Just wondering if there is anyone who could advise me please . I have been on sick leave since January and again last year due to having a brain tumour. I had the tumour removed in may and am still in recovery period really. I am a pe teacher and struggled with teaching with the symptoms of the tumour. I now am constantly fatigued and have single sided deafness. I know I am not capable of the physical needs for the job and my mental health is not good. I have been teaching at the school for 5 years and did supply for a long time before that. I don't think I could live on I'll health retirement even if they did give it to me as I am 39 and have 3 children. Do I have any other options. Thanks in advance.
     
  13. LadyForlorn

    LadyForlorn New commenter

    Sorry to hear that you’re having such a hard time. I hope the treatment leads to a successful outcome but I’m sure it must be very hard going and debilitating.

    There are many options which would allow you to remain in teaching if that’s what you want. You may be able to teach another subject for at least part of the time. Alternatively, you could be provided with a support worker (a personal teaching assistant) who could help out with the parts of the job that you find most difficult. I had a support worker funded by Access to Work, who enabled me to continue in my role for 7 years following my diagnosis. Although the job was still really hard, they made it manageable (along with other adjustments made by the school).

    You are right to think of ill health retirement as a ‘last resort’. Firstly, you are still undergoing treatment and recovery and it would be very hard to convince the pensions medical board that there is no realistic chance of recovery between now and retirement age. Tier 1 IHR (unfit to teach but fit for other paid work) would not provide a very large pension based on your number of years’ service.

    You still have a long road to recovery to take but if you want to return to teaching then that is a good goal to set. I was on mat leave when my condition was diagnosed and I had six months’ worth of worry and stress about whether or not I could return to my job. It was a horrible time and I can empathise with how you must be feeling very ‘at sea’ at the thought of it. Telling you to concentrate on your recovery for now and not think about work is probably like preaching to the converted, but I know from experience that it is far easier said than done.

    Access to Work willl conduct an assessment to work out what support you could get when you are within six weeks of being fit to return to work. Their assessment and recommendations will be largely led by what you want and what your employer will require, but it will really have to be led by you. Like all government departments, they are slow and bureaucratic, but the support can be invaluable. If you think you can return to teaching of any type with the help of a support worker, then it’s really important to maintain a dialogue with the school.

    If you have any questions, please feel free to ask.
     
  14. katymcgurk0929

    katymcgurk0929 New commenter

     
  15. amanda11111

    amanda11111 New commenter

    Hi @LadyForlorn. I have just been awarded IHR Tier 1, where I am able to undertake other forms of paid employment. Do you think or know whether I would be able to do some one to one tuition from home, as everything you read seems to be a little confusing. One to one tuition is very different from a school classroom, but don't want to do anything wrong. Many thanks
     
  16. amanda11111

    amanda11111 New commenter

    Hi @LadyForlorn. I have just been awarded IHR Tier 1, where I am able to undertake other forms of paid employment. Do you think or know whether I would be able to do some one to one tuition from home, as everything you read seems to be a little confusing. One to one tuition is very different from a school classroom, but don't want to do anything wrong. Many thanks
     
  17. Ex-teacher

    Ex-teacher Occasional commenter

    Just to add my story....

    Spinal condition, deteriorating. That, combined with the pressures of work lead to depression. Over the last 2 years of my career I had on average, a week off each half term, together with the occasional day.

    I left teaching in August 2017. Occupational health had not been involved. No disciplinary actions due to absence.

    On a whim, I applied for ill health retirement in June 2018. My GP, and school hr completed their forms, including specialist back consultants reports and mri scan reports. Gp charged £40. Application returned, needing more info. GP wrote a letter, osteopath wrote a letter. Ill health retirement (tier 1) granted.

    For me, the process was relatively easy, if time consuming; the whole process was delayed as it was July and August, and people (including me!) were on holiday.

    Pension arrived in early October. .

    @amanda11111 as I understand it tutoring is not allowed, but I may be wrong...
     
  18. LadyForlorn

    LadyForlorn New commenter

    When I received the letter stating that I had been given IHR it said that I could not undertake any roles covered by teaching - including ‘teaching, lecturing and tutoring’. This was quite disappointing at first as I was considering private tuition and tutoring was not mentioned as excluded in the original ‘leaflet’ about applying for IHR.
     
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  19. amanda11111

    amanda11111 New commenter

    Yes, that's what I was thinking, until I received the letter saying the same as you. Did you give them a call to clarify by any chance? Also, how long once your pension was approved, did you receive the payment? Thanks for your help.
     
  20. amanda11111

    amanda11111 New commenter

    Yes, that's what I was thinking, until I received the letter saying the same as you. Did you give them a call to clarify by any chance? Also, how long once your pension was approved, did you receive the payment? Thanks for your help.
     

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