Could not agree more with the above two postings. It is a sad reflection on our society that it produces such 'failures' - people who are at a loss as to what there role in society could be given the chance to learn and develop. I feel their hurt - I was hurt and chucked on the scrap heap after the Army decided it did not want me anymore. Did anyone see the programme about the homeless soldiers living on our streets ? No wonder there are complaints about teenagers - many parents of today are the cause and their behaviours are worse and are of no example - no wonder their offsprings are the way they are - there is real need for improved communication about how to be better parents - Some years ago I attended and Open University course on how to be a better parent it was very helpful - the videos taught us a thing or two - I can recommend the Open University.