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If I return to work part-time are staff meetings etc on a pro rata basis

Discussion in 'Parenting' started by ilovetheweekend, Jan 10, 2012.

  1. I had a brief return to work meeting yesterday with my head. I asked to return 3 days, Wed to Fri. Staff meetings are on a monday and he said I would have to do half of these which I thought was fair enough so said that maybe mon to wed would be better.Once I got home I thought back to last year and the fact we have a number of part-time staff and I dont recall seeing any of these at staff meetings. Is it a different rule for those returning on from maternity leave on a part-time basis? How do I tackle this?
    Also if staff meetings are on a pro rata basis, are twilights, parents evenings etc?
    How does it all work?
    Thanks.
     
  2. I had a brief return to work meeting yesterday with my head. I asked to return 3 days, Wed to Fri. Staff meetings are on a monday and he said I would have to do half of these which I thought was fair enough so said that maybe mon to wed would be better.Once I got home I thought back to last year and the fact we have a number of part-time staff and I dont recall seeing any of these at staff meetings. Is it a different rule for those returning on from maternity leave on a part-time basis? How do I tackle this?
    Also if staff meetings are on a pro rata basis, are twilights, parents evenings etc?
    How does it all work?
    Thanks.
     
  3. kittenmittens

    kittenmittens New commenter

    I'm not sure what the rules are, but I think you can only be asked to attend meetings etc on the days you are working, if these days are specified in your contract. I was very lucky and got 0.4 over 2 days (primary) which was exactly what I wanted (used to be full time before mat leave). I don't work Mondays so staff meeting notes are put in my pidgeon hole. I teach a specialist subject so some of the lit/num stuff isn;t relevant to what I do now, but it's worth knowing what's going on so as not to get deskilled. I have been asked to attend meetings on other days, and have attended 2 (not all of them) with the baby in tow. Meetings in other schools are always a no as I can't take my daughter with me- unprofessional in my opinion to take children to meetings- but my head is happy for me to bring her in with a basket of toys to keep her amused.
     
  4. Coolgiraffe

    Coolgiraffe Occasional commenter

    I think you should google part time working conditions on your unions wensite and check. Although I do believe you can only be asked to attend meetings on days you work.
    Usually part time staff negotiate which inset days / parents meetings etc you should do pro rata. This is because you may actually be a part time member of staff in 2 schools eventually and therefore could not attend to such requests.
     
  5. I'm sure there are lots of rules but often it depends on the school. For example, I work in a private school where they seem to have thrown the rule book out of the window! You must do what you feel happy doing and put your foot down when you think they are taking the mick. I'm lucky to not work day meetings happen so have not been asked to attend any, however I've been given more after school prep supervision than anyone else, presumably to make up for all the things I 'miss'. I have spoken up about this but in a very small school with mostly part time staff the ethos is very much that everyone has to muck in.
     
  6. I called HR and I do not have to attend meetings that are on my days off but Head may ask me to come to some if they are important but it def is nt alternate ones ie pro rata basis which is what my ht said. Think he may have been trying to pull a fast one!
     
  7. Hi,
    I've been looking at this myself lately and the guidance on the NUT website says that you would not have to attend meetings on days you did not work. If a meeting was on a day that you did work - eg. Wed, then these meetings would be pro rata so you would not have to attend all of them. From what I can work out parents eve, twighlights etc are also the same - so you could not be made to attend on a non work day and on days you do work they would become pro rata - counting towards your directed time. If you agreed to attend a meeting/inset etc on a day where you do not work then you are supposed to be paid for this and for it NOT to be counted towards your directed time. In other words...your head could not say 'Well can you attend the inset on Monday and we will count this as 6 hours of your directed time'. You would have to be paid instead. Whether this paid work actually happens in reality I don't know. But you are well within your rights NOT to work on days that you are not contracted. Sounds to me like your head is trying to pull a fast one - and if I were you I would go for Wed, Thurs and Fri - Just so you don't have to do the meetings!! I'm still trying to decide whether to ask for part time. Let us know how you get on x
     
  8. My old school actually switched to a weekly alternating staff meeting night to try to sort this situation out (one half of job-shares was getting hit every week with meetings and the other was escaping).
    Of course we ended up with an entire staffroom all trying to remember if it was a Monday or a Thursday week instead - but the intention was there!
     
  9. Chica77

    Chica77 New commenter

    I know someone who works 0.8 and her day off fell on meeting day so she never had to attend. They can't expect you to on your day off - for all they know you have another job and committments on that day.
    I work 0.5 (although i'm on maternity leave no. 2 at the moment) and I did work on meeting day, but just went to a meeting every other week. If a meeting were particularly important I'd go of course.
     
  10. I have not read the other posts - so if this repeats, I apologise.
    Everything is supposed to be on pro rata. In our school staff meeting days change so that this can happen. INSET days (twilights) we get paid on extra (supply rate) if it is on a day that we don't work. Parents evenings - we all do all parents evenings. (not paid - our choice) as we find that it is easier - if you get a difficult parent...
    Don't do more than you want to do.
    x
     
  11. miss_sixties22

    miss_sixties22 New commenter

    Just to add, I've recently gone part time and have noticed that several parents' evenings this year are on the days I don't work. I was advised by my rep to write a nice letter to the head saying how I would like to attend parents' evenings as it's in the best interests of the kids and establishing relationships with aprents, however, I would like to be paid for them - overtime and travel expenses (I mentioned that I would also need to pay my childminder for these hours as my husband would still be at work).
    I got a reply saying that was fine!! So def. don't do anything extra for nothing. If you state your requirements from the very off, they won't expect to get you doing lots for nothing in the coming years!
     

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