The golfers can play in the Seniors from 50 I think but most of them are 65+ and some are 75+. Just being able to fit into a 12 does not solve all the problems believe me - my proportions are not always standard and I never buy stuff online for that reason - unless I know the brand really well. Going to make lunch and as the rain has stopped I think I'll hit our nearest shops - so that will give me Phase 8, House of Fraser, Mint Velvet, Laura Ashley for a start. I'd like something I could wear again which is why separates appeal and I don't feel that bothered about being a bit underdressed. Black trousers and a silk shirt would do it but the prices I've googled are a bit steep. LK Bennett is lovely but honestly!!! I'm 68 btw.